Treat women like Khabib

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I agree to this to a certain degree.. However some of it is horse shyte.

Yes divorce does happen in muslim communities.. However it is frowned upon.. Couples generally have to stick it out.. No matter what.

Also muslim woman are heavily protected and guarded.. They do not move away from home and move into some skanky apartment, then take random diks every single weekend.

By the time most muslim woman marry, they are usually virgins.. Or the dik count is ONE

They also catch FEELS for a man pretty rapid.. I have been told this from muslim men.. Not only that, they are taught to respect there men.

But some Western woman? By the time they are 26 they have had multiple diks in every hole possibile.

They have taken sooooooooo much random cawk, that the ability to genuinely pair bond with a man, has been fuked out of them.

They simply cannot love and devote themselves to a man.

And here we are... The MIGHTY western man, reduced to making pathetic desperate posts on SS after being divorce raped by his liitle princes.

Hypergamy gone into overdrive!!
Exactly bro. This is fire. Its posts like this that remind me that I am not going crazy.
 
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Mia Khalifa who isn't even Muslim almost got her head chopped off for doing porn. She got death threats etc. This is a perfect example of how Islam doesn't play that promiscuity stuff. You not gonna get a slut walk or little pink hats. You will get your azz beat.

I know muslim chicks very well. Some of them were close friends of mine because I went to a science grad school program. It had many Pakistanis. Even the sluttiest ones had no more than a few ****. They were highly secretive and selective about sex because it was a HUGE source of shame in their culture. They all ended up marrying beta providers ( which is a good thing ) who themselves had not had much sex.
 

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You see how she was like, "You disgust me, Khabib. Go eat your hamburger, you haven't even given me eye contact this whole interview! I have a pvssy. I am on equal footing as you! take me seriously!" She's DEMANDING someone behave how she wants him to behave, in other words, ALL western women, trying to get your to "behave" or "get it" (get with the "program") ("he doesn't 'get it'" "I wish I could get some male to kick his as5!" "Of course, I'd have to give him sexual favors to do it..."), to get in line, to be controlled like a little pet dog, or like children (Women all wanna be the school teachers that are ruining our children btw) to "behave." Khabib's like "You should be separate from us" "you shouldn't even be here interviewing me, this is a Man's sport" "All you are asking me is bubble gum questions, I'd rather be relaxing and enjoying being around my friends rather than this trash wh0re fake who dotes the latest "line" or consensus thought as if it were her own concoction."
Bro you can see it by his body language he doesn't like her interviewing him especially when she is almost half naked. He thought she asked him " are you hot" as in a sexual way. He looked at her like " bisch, da fuq did you just ask me? Begone thot". He doesn't even know why she is interviewing him. She is not an ex fighter and she is not even male.

Mind you this chick has been rumored to have had sexual relations with some fighters including Francis Ngannou. Khabib knows that men should stay far away from sexually seductive women and it shows in this clip.
 

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^^ and she, as well as a myriad of other American women I see in my everyday life as I get close to a big city especially, does not like that he is guided by his INGRAINED since birth beliefs about women's role in society, to HELP their men and stay at home and raise the kids. She is Furious at him cause she senses he's "Not with the program" he's not with "feminism" as most of our American brethren would be overly sensitive to in the interview to pander to her just because she has been born with a sl!t between the legs to beget your potential genes, to further your offspring even though there's probably no chance you're gonna knock her up. Men kowtow to females everywhere and their feminist agenda too just in hopes of spreading their genes forward OR Using the b!tch interviewing him to gain "feminist-OK" status to knock up some other broad looking on, who says "OMG, he's so with it, he 'gets' it, he's for female 'equality.'" lt's like Hitler or other politicians picking up babies from their mothers and kissing them for show in order to obtain the most votes. Perceived selflessness is always very selfish underneath whether it's gain of status clout or a paycheck under the table. It's our animal nature underlying the trickery to "get with the program." Khabib has said on countless occasions that it's not about the money, that you cannot store money in your mind. That's why he crucified Conor so badly for overstepping his bounds and insulting Alah. That gave Khabib serious motivation, he could have killed Conor in the cage. Conor was mocking Alah in the press conference before the fight and trying to get Khabib to drink his Whiskey "Proper 12." Khabib doesn't drink because of Islam and Conor knew that but tried to force his liquor onto him, then he insulted/mocked Alah after that.
 

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I agree to this to a certain degree.. However some of it is horse shyte.

Yes divorce does happen in muslim communities.. However it is frowned upon.. Couples generally have to stick it out.. No matter what.

Also muslim woman are heavily protected and guarded.. They do not move away from home and move into some skanky apartment, then take random diks every single weekend.

By the time most muslim woman marry, they are usually virgins.. Or the dik count is ONE

They also catch FEELS for a man pretty rapid.. I have been told this from muslim men.. Not only that, they are taught to respect there men.

But some Western woman? By the time they are 26 they have had multiple diks in every hole possibile.

They have taken sooooooooo much random cawk, that the ability to genuinely pair bond with a man, has been fuked out of them.

They simply cannot love and devote themselves to a man.

And here we are... The MIGHTY western man, reduced to making pathetic desperate posts on SS after being divorce raped by his liitle princes.

Hypergamy gone into overdrive!!
Not all of them are heavily guarded.
Hymen replacement surgery is big in Muslim communities, just saying ;).

I have heard traditional muslim women chew out their husbands in public, more than once. A woman I work with who is Muslim but not very traditional (but her family still is) told me that her female relatives (here and in her home country) get their husbands in trouble with the imam when he does something to piss them off. A lot of the men do things they are not suppose to like drink alcohol so the wives will tell the imam that their husbands are not being good Muslims and stuff so I don’t know that this respect thing is across the board. She (and a few other Muslim women) also said that Muslim men have very fragile egos (so may not be surprising if your male Muslim friends are saying that their wives are all loving and respectful, even if they are not). In fact it’s not uncommon for men and women in general to play up their relationships to save face.

Now I’m not saying that no Muslim women is respectful or loving, I’m just saying that it may be a generalization that Muslim women are all a certain way.

Toronto is a very very diverse city and you get to know from all walks of life. It’s been my experience with the various stricter non Christian religions that a lot of people just go through the motions, just like a lot of Christians do. Human nature is very very potent and not easily suppressed. I once saw an Orthodox Jewish man pick up a trans hooker at 8:30 in the morning on a Tuesday.

Anyway, not sure if you and Pandora are just discussing the differences or seriously considering looking for women in those cultures but if the latter, I highly recommend you do some deep research to make an informed decision, and not just decide to join because you think the women will be better controlled. It may be a crap shoot out there with promiscuity of many western women, but the grass may not been as green as you think on the other side. Just do your homework first if this is a serious consideration.
 
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^^ there is a Muslim family that walks around in their garb (long house robe) in my neighborhood every day around 7 to 8 PM. Fat dude and his wife and son. It's very bizarre like Halloween every day. I'm running the trails and I'll see them out just getting their exercise walking or waddling I'd say and they smile at me but the son seems very Angry. The average home in my area is $430K.
 

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It looks like Mexicans have found that balance between female sexuality and still having strong families. Any Mexican or Hispanic guys can help answer this?
That's not the case here in Southern Cali... I know tons of Latino guys that are raising kids that arent theirs.... Many Latinas get pregnant at a young age and dont settle down with their first babydaddy.... They go on to marry a betabuxxing Latino dude whom they also have kids with and so we're now seeing a trend of half-siblings and divorced families in the Latino community.....

In a few years the Latino community will go the same way as the Black community: broken homes, kids being raised by single mothers, promuscuity etc.....

Sadly Americanized Latinos have given up on their conservative Catholic up-bringing and have adopted liberalism....

...That's why the Democrats are desperately trying to court the Latino vote.... Sadly, this will bring about the downfall of their communities just like it did with the Black community...
 

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You only see the worst representations of them. They are actually very humanitarian. Much more so than the West.
What... The.... Actual.... Fvck?!?

Yes they are "humanitarian" as long as you obey whatever arbitrary societal rules they set. What happens when someone, anyone in such a society doesn't want to live their life according that lifestyle? Do you know? They get whipped, thrown in jail, stoned or have their FVCKING HEAD CHOPPED OFF! Yeah, very humanitarian...

Where in the West does someone face such severe punishment for exercising freedom?
 

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What... The.... Actual.... Fvck?!?

Yes they are "humanitarian" as long as you obey whatever arbitrary societal rules they set. What happens when someone, anyone in such a society doesn't want to live their life according that lifestyle? Do you know? They get whipped, thrown in jail, stoned or have their FVCKING HEAD CHOPPED OFF! Yeah, very humanitarian...

Where in the West does someone face such severe punishment for exercising freedom?
Bro thats not most muslims man. Thats a small sect of muslims. Islam is very very diverse. Trust me bro if you actually met moderate muslims you would have a different opinion. The people that do that are the hillbillies of Islam. The educated city folk don't act like that.

When you actually study the tenets of Islam you find it not to far from Christianity and ancient Judaism. They are all pretty much Abrahamic religions. There are some people that bastardize the religion though.
 

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I agree to this to a certain degree.. However some of it is horse shyte.

Yes divorce does happen in muslim communities.. However it is frowned upon.. Couples generally have to stick it out.. No matter what.

Also muslim woman are heavily protected and guarded.. They do not move away from home and move into some skanky apartment, then take random diks every single weekend.

By the time most muslim woman marry, they are usually virgins.. Or the dik count is ONE

They also catch FEELS for a man pretty rapid.. I have been told this from muslim men.. Not only that, they are taught to respect there men.

But some Western woman? By the time they are 26 they have had multiple diks in every hole possibile.

They have taken sooooooooo much random cawk, that the ability to genuinely pair bond with a man, has been fuked out of them.

They simply cannot love and devote themselves to a man.

And here we are... The MIGHTY western man, reduced to making pathetic desperate posts on SS after being divorce raped by his liitle princes.

Hypergamy gone into overdrive!!
Hahaha

You made me laugh with this one soulforge.

Yet I feel sad thinking that my brothers are suffering because of this.

I do agree with Pandora's view.

Good morality should be embedded in girls in childhood.

I tried to get the forum discussing this but got derailed by feminine men and some hard core feminists.

Looks like we'll use this thread, it's a good place to start it going.

Once girls are embedded with good morals - that's laid out and enforced by fathers I would think western societies will see a decline of girls selling off their bodies for money or drugs or being on IG posing like sluts at such a young age.

Women should feel shame with their conduct.

Yet you see them feeling pride.

And then they go on blaming others for their own bad behaviour.
 
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if this khabib guy was single and non muslim he should of looked deep into her eyes and kissed her when she flirted. no getting laid though because it doesn't help the male at all.
 
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Thats a small sect of muslims.
If by small sect you mean several entire countries, then sure.

Trust me bro if you actually met moderate muslims you would have a different opinion.
I've met moderate Muslims, most of them are ok people and distance themselves from the ideals you look up to. Because they understand that forcing such ideals onto others will only lead to great pain and suffering, basically they have empathy along with their religious delusions.

When you actually study the tenets of Islam you find it not to far from Christianity and ancient Judaism. They are all pretty much Abrahamic religions. There are some people that bastardize the religion though.
Implying that I think Christianity and Judaism is any better as religions, lol. I'm an atheist, I'd rather prefer the absence of religious delusions altogether. I sh!t on Christianity just as much as I sh!t on Islam.
 

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If by small sect you mean several entire countries, then sure.


I've met moderate Muslims, most of them are ok people and distance themselves from the ideals you look up to. Because they understand that forcing such ideals onto others will only lead to great pain and suffering, basically they have empathy along with their religious delusions.


Implying that I think Christianity and Judaism is any better as religions, lol. I'm an atheist, I'd rather prefer the absence of religious delusions altogether. I sh!t on Christianity just as much as I sh!t on Islam.
Okay I get where you are coming from. You are an atheist. Makes sense now. I used to be an atheist. Now I just basically believe in Source energy, higher self, karma etc.

As far distancing themselves from the ideals that I look up to, I really don't see any evidence that Muslim parents are backing away from slut shaming. Thats the ideal I described in the op. Could you send me an article the shows that Muslim and Amish are distancing themselves from sexual purity. I am willing to change my mind if I see evidence.
 

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Could you send me an article the shows that Muslim and Amish are distancing themselves from sexual purity.
It's not like they speak of such publicly, because you know they'll be shamed into oblivion by their communities... So yeah, I doubt I'll find any statistics on it.

Now I just basically believe in Source energy, higher self, karma etc.
Well, even that is a bit far out for me. I get what it means though, but I'll talk about it in more natural terms and avoid such extremely abstract sensational words. Just take karma as an example, there is a totally natural interpretation for it, but most people seem to interpret it in supernatural ways. Like you do something wrong and by some magical force it comes back to you when there's absolutely no explanation in cause and effect. As a fact people get away with doing bad deeds all the time. In a more natural sense you could say if you fvck someone over there's a good chance they'll retaliate leading to negative consequences, it doesn't violate any physical laws and technically is correct according to the definition of karma.

Anyways, I'm getting sidetracked. I don't care if men or women fvck around. Their right to have the freedom to choose to do that is most important to me. I didn't mind fvcking various women when I was single, if no women wanted to fvck then I couldn't have done that. However I am all for doing so responsibly, using condoms, not intentionally lead others on and hurt their feelings. Better to attack that specifically than condemn the act altogether if you ask me.

I'd rather have the downsides of freedom than the downsides of authoritarian social rules.
 

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For Muslims living in western cultures there is a trend to move away from tradition but that’s common knowledge.

So here is a 2016 article on the marriage trend Saudi Arabia, which basically has the strictest Muslim culture:


With social media, internet, access to information and a connection to the rest of the world, younger people are becoming more influenced by other ways of life. It’s not surprising that they want to live less restricted lives. We see it full scale in the US and Canada.

The Amish do seem to have a better hold on their traditions though despite living alongside western cultures for generations.
 
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The Amish are very close knit so may be very difficult to marry an Amish girl if you are not ingrained in the community. They don’t invite new members if you know what I mean.

Pandora if you are considering joining a community where women are more conservative, but you don’t want to give up too much freedom or the comforts of modern life consider becoming a Jehovah Witness. They are always looking for new members it seems. I worked with two women who were very nice and open to talking about their way of life.
They don’t celebrate Christmas or birthdays and they take the bible as the literal word of God. Divorce is very much discouraged there and the gender roles are more traditional than in secular communities.

It is very hierarchal and rank and file though, no questioning of anything, no challenging anything and acceptance is very conditional on being a good Jehovah witness. But if you can do that, it may be an option over something that’s more extreme like becoming Muslim or Amish.
 

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The JW church was founded by Charles Taze Russell a 33rd degree freemason like a lot of other religious groups. You will find if you do some research that satan has started many religions to mislead the masses into worshipping The Beast (Antichrist) when he comes. Go to where Charles was buried and have a look to see who he was before you join the Jehovahs.
 

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The Bible is very plain that anyone who trusts in their own works will go to the Lake of Fire forever.

The Amish believe that God carefully weighs the individual's total lifetime record of obedience to the church and then decides whether the person's eternal destiny will be the reward of Heaven or the punishment in Hell. As a result, an Amish believer lives their life and dies not knowing if they are saved and will attain Heaven. This lack of certainty has made the Amish church susceptible to raiding from other Christian evangelists at various times in its history.

Understanding the Amish," Alpha Books, (2003

something is wrong here with the amish.
 

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Anyways, I'm getting sidetracked. I don't care if men or women fvck around. Their right to have the freedom to choose to do that is most important to me. I didn't mind fvcking various women when I was single, if no women wanted to fvck then I couldn't have done that. However I am all for doing so responsibly, using condoms, not intentionally lead others on and hurt their feelings. Better to attack that specifically than condemn the act altogether if you ask me.

I'd rather have the downsides of freedom than the downsides of authoritarian social rules.
Hey I understand your position and I am divided on this topic. Is it better to have freedom and lose feminine women, or is it better to have authoritarian rules but persevere women? I don't know sometimes. But I do know that you can not have both total freedom and femininity. I want to add that when I say authoriatarian rules I do not mean violence. I mean strict shaming tactics for any women that gets out of line. I am a libertarian and I would never want to physically force a person to do anything. But I do advocate shaming them into compliance.

It is impossible to give women freedom and still be able to have longterm relationships with them. I too would not have gotten the fun sexual experiences that I did get if it was not for female sexual liberation, but I am not sure that the cost was worth it. I have been going back and forth on this recently.
 

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The Amish are very close knit so may be very difficult to marry an Amish girl if you are not ingrained in the community. They don’t invite new members if you know what I mean.

Pandora if you are considering joining a community where women are more conservative, but you don’t want to give up too much freedom or the comforts of modern life consider becoming a Jehovah Witness. They are always looking for new members it seems. I worked with two women who were very nice and open to talking about their way of life.
They don’t celebrate Christmas or birthdays and they take the bible as the literal word of God. Divorce is very much discouraged there and the gender roles are more traditional than in secular communities.

It is very hierarchal and rank and file though, no questioning of anything, no challenging anything and acceptance is very conditional on being a good Jehovah witness. But if you can do that, it may be an option over something that’s more extreme like becoming Muslim or Amish.
Again I ask how do Latin American cultures do it. They same to still have feminine family oriented women, but Latin guys still seem to get laid plenty. Maybe we can learn thing or two from them...idk
 
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