"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Hey guys, Some background: I met HB8 last summer through a mutual friend, she had a BF at the time. They broke up in Feb. and I still never showed any real interest in her, because she had all the signs of an attention *****. While my friends were hanging out, I never really had a conversation past hello with her, and I often neg hitted her because she was acted like a superior being. While my friends were giving her way too much attention, I acted like I didn't give a crap about her.

Anyway so about 3 days ago, HB8 got my screen name and begins messaging me, I had no idea who it was, but then I figured it out. So We talked a few times in the past week, then last night she IMed me again and we had a playful conversation. Here are some parts I can't understand...

in the middle of our convo, out of nowhere she says

HB8:you know, you're interesting
Me:thank you
HB8:all I know about you is your best friend is Mike, your favorite word is NEXT and blah blah
Me: Thats all you need to know for now, maybe i'll let you know more, someday :-D
HB8: Thats all I want to know now, thanks
Me: Surree

Basically throughout the conversation there were times where I hinted that I knows she liked me, but she came back with replys denying it to which I just said surree. Then she asked me If I was going to so and so's house this weekend, and I said "no im busy, but you can't wait to see me huh", she replied with something like "don't flatter yourself hun" then laughed.

Is this girl interested? Or is she just trying to win my attention, because she knows I haven't given her any in the past. Either she wants me or this girl is so desperate for my attention she needs to keep IMing me.

And before you ask, I already intend to ask her phone number then out to do something because I can't stand INstant Messaging for more then just hello/goodbye.

Thanks guys!
 
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I think she sees you as a sarcastic guy that has a jokey (as in not very serious) attitude and she is responding in the same way as you talk to her.

I suggest you don't overuse the neg hits and ****iness so much around her, because it could easily turn her off and make your chances with her go down to zero.

It's great that you ignore her and are not desperate about her like most of her guy friends, and i'm sure this makes her more attracted to you. However, there is a time when you need to be more serious and let her know where you stand. That's what i think...
 

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Then if he turns her off he turns her off. She is a human being, no reason to treat her different...she is not a god
 

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Originally posted by flyinshark
I think she sees you as a sarcastic guy that has a jokey (as in not very serious) attitude and she is responding in the same way as you talk to her.

I suggest you don't overuse the neg hits and ****iness so much around her, because it could easily turn her off and make your chances with her go down to zero.

It's great that you ignore her and are not desperate about her like most of her guy friends, and i'm sure this makes her more attracted to you. However, there is a time when you need to be more serious and let her know where you stand. That's what i think...
Thats actually something I hadn't thought of, good pickup shark.

Yes I am sarcastic and jokey, and we were going back and forth with each other(she was actually neg-hitting ME at times, I guess cause I was trying to sound arrogant so she knows I won't kiss her feet) but what explains the random IMs? Why did she IM me out of nowhere? And why did she call me "interesting", does this mean she sees me as a mystery?

IS there some interest here? or again, is she being an A.W.

The reason I want to know is because I m wondering if this is even worth pursuing.

Flyinshark- What do you mean by "be more serious and let her know where you stand"?

Don't you think If I don't continue to neg-hit she will see me as those "friends" we just talked about? Or have I already established that we're past that?

Thanks.
 
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Originally posted by PVSSY-EATER
Then if he turns her off he turns her off. She is a human being, no reason to treat her different...she is not a god
I get your point, and of course the world isnt gonna explode if the girl is turned off.

But as men, when we pursue a girl, we intend to succeed into having her. However, if the girl is turned off, then it means that we can't have her anymore, and therefore we failed. It's not the outcome we were looking for.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Originally posted by ImpossibleIsNothing
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but what explains the random IMs? Why did she IM me out of nowhere? And why did she call me "interesting", does this mean she sees me as a mystery?

IS there some interest here? or again, is she being an A.W.
She started to IM you outta nowhere because she had some interest in you, that's without a doubt. But that was BEFORE she knew about your ****y attitude.;)

Originally posted by ImpossibleIsNothing
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Flyinshark- What do you mean by "be more serious and let her know where you stand"?

Don't you think If I don't continue to neg-hit she will see me as those "friends" we just talked about? Or have I already established that we're past that?

Thanks.
In the begining, you kinda have established that you are different from her friends... But by keeping the same attitude maybe she started to not take you so seriously anymore.

If you continue in the same way, i think you will screw up your chances with her. She will talk to you with the sole purpose of being entertained. Kinda like the king's fool, if u know what i mean. Amusement purposes only. And that's not the way you want her to see you.

There is a SLIGHT chance that you will drive her nuts if you keep ignoring her, and she will then be all over you, in a good way. But i'd say that this is less likely to happen.

Let her know where you stand : i mean become serious in one conversation with her and ask her out or get her phone number. Show some interest in her instead of making fun of her and ignoring her all the time.

Hope this helps!
 

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Originally posted by flyinshark
She started to IM you outta nowhere because she had some interest in you, that's without a doubt. But that was BEFORE she knew about your ****y attitude.;)



In the begining, you kinda have established that you are different from her friends... But by keeping the same attitude maybe she started to not take you so seriously anymore.

If you continue in the same way, i think you will screw up your chances with her. She will talk to you with the sole purpose of being entertained. Kinda like the king's fool, if u know what i mean. Amusement purposes only. And that's not the way you want her to see you.

There is a SLIGHT chance that you will drive her nuts if you keep ignoring her, and she will then be all over you, in a good way. But i'd say that this is less likely to happen.

Let her know where you stand : i mean become serious in one conversation with her and ask her out or get her phone number. Show some interest in her instead of making fun of her and ignoring her all the time.

Hope this helps!
Wow, I think you're spot on. I appreciate it. Don't get me wrong though, it wasn't all flirt talk and neg hits, we had a few intelligent things thrown in there :). If nothing else, I've definately learned to tone down the ****y/funny stuff a bit.

Thanks dude, I will let you know how goes it.
 

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maybe you just shouldnt give a **** about how she look at you? if you wanna get her then demand it?
 
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