"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
transition nice guys need to pass through
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
It is between 6 and 7 i think:
He realizes that his current image and behaviour is repulsive to women, and he doesnt even feel good in that old "skin" anymore.
so he conciously or unconciously changes his clothes, his words, his style, his actions, he starts to work out, etc.
This is where his looser-friends start to envy him and try to pull him down, talk sh!t about him. This is where his girl ... friends who have seen him as an innocent little guy start to dislike him. This is where his gf breaks up with him(cause she cant exploit and manipulate him anymore).
So he asks: "WTF? am i wrong?"
He is still not sure in himself at that stage.
Any experiences with that?
I'm at stage 9 and what I've been saying on various forums for the past year is the biggest lesson I've learnt is that 'be yourself' is really the best advice but useless at the beginning.
I now no longer fear being single, I am still in an LTR but I love me for being me.
DonJuan_DeRosco
Don Juan
I like Alien's stage 6.5 above, i think that's a good one to add.
Maxtro
Master Don Juan
It still doesn't say how the guy changes to actually get girls.DonJuan_DeRosco said:Somewhere between 7 and 8 i'd say.
I like Alien's stage 6.5 above, i think that's a good one to add.
From what people are saying it's
Change clothes, words, style, actions and then get lucky.
There needs to be something about that the nice puts himself in new and more social situations. He flirts and asks out girls. Somehow girls begin to respond positively.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.