“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Torrents and Piracy - pay for anything?

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a) Do you pay for quality content with respect to PUA material or just grab it from torrent sites?
b) Under what circumstances would you pay for something, if at all?
c) Is there a threshold value of which you wouldn't exceed, say under $50, under $25 or under $10?
d) What sort of material are you guys looking for?

We're trying to tailor our materials better and get it in the hands of the people that need it.

Please, don't hold back, be totally honest, I won't bite.
 

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I'm currently super broke so I won't pay for anything that could conceivably be available for free. The only PUA material I'd ever pay for is an in person seminar/workshop.

Right now I'm trying to find a digital copy of Mystery's new book "The pickup artist : the new and improved art of seduction." So far the only place I found it is as a $15 ebook which is way too much.

The main reason that I am very hesitant in paying for any PUA material is because I doubt that it can actually help me. I've read many ebooks and watched DVD's but they've done very little for me.
 

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"I pay for my internet, so I'm not stealing anything. I'm merely taking full advantage of said internet, and all it has to offer."
 
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Maxtro said:
I'm currently super broke so I won't pay for anything that could conceivably be available for free. The only PUA material I'd ever pay for is an in person seminar/workshop.

Right now I'm trying to find a digital copy of Mystery's new book "The pickup artist : the new and improved art of seduction." So far the only place I found it is as a $15 ebook which is way too much.

The main reason that I am very hesitant in paying for any PUA material is because I doubt that it can actually help me. I've read many ebooks and watched DVD's but they've done very little for me.
$15 is pretty much standard for any sort of book. If the cost was under $10 would it make you more likely to purchase?

What about a paypal option for the Colombian?

Again, trying to make things accessible.

What about a free version that was ad supported or an e-mail drop in?

I would really like to hear from the guys that don't pay, or pay for some things, but not others. Really, let's hear from the pirates!
 

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Okay this thread is very old, but if you're still reading here's my opinion:

Many of these books, especially about seduction/selfhelp/learn karate are extremely crappy. And it's impossible to know which one is good (e.g. deserves my money). So I would NOT buy one unless
1) I get an honest recommendation (from here or from real people)
2) I can preview some of the content.

Also, I am ALWAYS wary of a product that has one of those obnoxious websites, where there's 20000 words about how good this book is blah blah, with faked testimonials, etc.
Take a look at this website (just picked a random one on google). I have no idea about the book, but it reeks of false promises. There is not a single good reason to buy this book demonstrated on the website. At best, I would pirate this thing.

=> A preview chapter that is REALLY GOOD would convince me, along with reviews. If you can convince ppl, then money suddenly is not a problem anymore. I don't read seduction books now but really, this applies to any book/DVD I would buy.

P.S.: just had another look at the site and it says "As seen on Google"... hilarious :D
 
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Downloading something for free is not stealing. It's a way of ****ing up the system. Holly wood, the magician's holly wood, makes a film, CIA sticks behavior programming into it. People pay money to get brainwashed. Some good hackers have R5 line, they rip it, and they offer it, and people can watch the film before its released in movie theaters, reducing the income level of those bastards, which in turn leaves CIA broke, one tiny bit at a time. The CIA has to sell more coke to black folks then, blacks get wiser and wiser seeing their fellow brothers dying. People find out truth, unite, and arm themselves.

End result brother is 1776!



Let me define stealing now: you live a ghetto, look around, everything around you is devil. The sky is God, because it's peaceful there. You steal from your neighbor, another fellow ghetto man, who is just like you, suffering in Babylon. That's stealing.
 

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Stealing is probably too harsh, and I hate hollywood like you. I actually think that book writers should just accept the fact that most people pirate their stuff. No matter if wrong or right, it's reality, and they can do nothing.

Rather, they should adapt, like music groups are doing! Their stuff gets pirated and downloaded, and IF THEY ARE GOOD, then they get huge "underground publicity". They can then use that publicity to sell merchandise and concert venues, get record deals etc.

DJ book writers can use that publicity to make seminars. I don't have any idea about the "community", but look at RSD. Face it, most people will pirate that stuff, the Blueprint and what not. But their seminars seem to be always booked! So that is the real moneymaker! Their DVDs are pirated, but it gets the necessary publicity.

That's really the only business model that I can see working.
 
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