"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Toronto Wingman

ShyRyder

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Hey

I’m looking to meet up with people in the GTA for the main purpose of expanding my social network. I want to connect with people who after success and willing to do whatever it takes to improve. We can just kick it and chill or find places to work on our game, If you interested email at [email protected] telling me a little about yourself age, ambition, music etc. After that we can meet up for coffee feel each other out some more and then go from there.

-Ryder
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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ApC23

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im from toronto, might be too young for your liking though. 18...guessing your in 30's..?
 
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ApC23 said:
im from toronto, might be too young for your liking though. 18...guessing your in 30's..?
Your from Toronto - cool. I'm in the west end. My bootcamps are practised in Sheridan Mall, Yorkdale Mall and around this west-end area, however, I tend to do this alone or with my folks - but later on I may be open to having a wingman.

However, in September we could after girls coming from all girls catholic schools like Madonna, Loretto Abbey and try and close some numbers or something, or try some routines on them. Anyway, remind me about it when September comes if interested, I'm 50/50 on it myself, but thought I'd mention it here anyway.
 

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I'm 18 too, from the west end. Still lookin' into the whole concept of wingmen though, need some more time.

I'd need someone around my age though, I'd imagine its abit hard to open sets and work with a 30+ yr old...
 

ShyRyder

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Naw you weirdos, im not 30 im 23. And im looking for guys who have a lot of experence someone who i can learn from so i wouldn't mind a dude in his 30s. And if you are some sort of life Guru at a young age thats cool too.

-Ryder
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Jordache.DJ

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Hey, count me in. I've never had much luck finding wingmen in Toronto. Only one of my buds has ever been into clubbing and he moved away last year. So, I don't have much club experience and would enjoy working on that scene with a motivated wingman. I'm 23 and live downtown.
 

Uro.Essence

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im 20 live in the GTA (Brampton) and im up for winging even if its not with a guru or anything, we can all learn from eachother.
 

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I am looking for a wing in GTA area as well.
I am a GPUA, 26, 5'6 115lbs Asian.
My favourite sarge location is in Pacific Mall, FMP, and Yorkdale mall.

I am hoping to get a wing to sarge as well as exchanging skills and experiences.
I prefer day games and usually sarge alone.
I have successfully Instant Date girls and follow up afterward.

I live in Mississauga and works in Markham, anywhere in GTA is fine with me. PM me if interested.
 

Taboo

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Hey Guys,
I'm 23 and female, if your interested in winging with a girl then pm me. :woo:
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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donjuanjovi

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Taboo said:
Hey Guys,
I'm 23 and female, if your interested in winging with a girl then pm me. :woo:
Depends on what you look like! PM me and we'll chat!
 

Quiksilver

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Hey Guys,
I'm 23 and female, if your interested in winging with a girl then pm me.
How do you benefit from winging with a guy? I've never had success when with a girl friend...
 

Docs

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Quiksilver said:
How do you benefit from winging with a guy? I've never had success when with a girl friend...
Guys can open guys for the girl, the girl can open girls for the guy.

It's simple, and it works if done properly. (especially if you both aren't too bad looking)
 

reza

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24 downtown toronto ,and i think having a good wingman is a privilege . email me if up you r up for hunting . (no gays please only hunting)
[email protected]
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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downlowpro

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hey..

I'm 24. 5'9".160lbs. Student. Live downtown Toronto. ...could use a wing(s), cause the whole lone wolf thing is tough. Would be easier if I had a wing tear it up wit.

I just moved here from Calgary, and don't know many people. Of the guys i've met down here, they're not aware of the social dynamics nor do they approach. Lookin to sarge with some like minded guys..and add that female wing to the equation...why not?
 

Heart Break Kid

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17/m/toronto

Hey, I'm 17 as of December. I have a house in Toronto and in Brampton and my only good wing at the moment is this girl named Lexxie who's a friend with benefits. I know I'm a little young but I've approached hundreads of girls. PM me if you're around my age. I've been working hard in the gym for two years, very good dress style (slightly pecockish) and generally hot. I'm a pretty damn good don juan and I understand the bond between wingman and will take one of for team if needed. Looking for someone with similar interests/ideals.
 

Rizal Park

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Hey Everyone

Im new in this forum and have been looking for a good wing as well..

Im 24, live in downtown and asian...

anyways my approach style is high-energy, direct/ indirect, canned (used to but not lately) and i guess inner game.. well im still learning and have tons of ebooks to share with if anyones interested (ranging from juggler, swingcat, venusian arts, david shade etc.etc..)

well pm me, i cant wait to learn from all of you DJ's out there...
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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