"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Torn between marketing and ibanking career. Do ibankers have time to get laid?

thechosenone2190

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Hi guys. I'm still in college and need to decide on a career path soon. I'm torn between IBanking and Marketing. I love money, but I also love to do marketing. I would also like to get laid by the hottest chicks possible and find a high quality wife.

I-banking Pros
-six figure salary including bonuses
Ibanking Cons
-no time to enjoy life (eg. hit the gym, get laid?)

Marketing Pros
-what i enjoy doing
Marketing Cons
-standard 60k salary

Which one should I choose? Do Ibankers have time to pick up girls and get laid, while improving other aspects of their lives outside of their profession? Will a salary less than 6 figures hold me back in terms of attracting high quality women?

For reference:
http://www.mergersandinquisitions.com/investment-banking-analyst-life-worst-day/
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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defiancy

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I-banking versus marketing is like night and day man. They are quite extreme choices. One is flexible, another is stiff excel and number crunching. I'm very sure if you mentioned "interest in marketing" at an i-banking interview they will throw you out of the interview rounds.

Kerpal is right about being from a top school + having minimum 3.5+ gpa. Considering that you read M&I, you should know there are those barriers to entry. I think it's very clear too that if you do I-bank you will not have time for yourself. You're doing it for the job exit opportunities and cash not for a easygoing lifestyle. The job is far far from it.
 

taiyuu_otoko

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What makes you think you'll be stuck in a 60K salary in marketing?

There are plenty of ways to make money other than pulling a high salary. If you are a good enough marketer (e.g. sales) you can write your own ticket.

Stick with what you like, and you'll find a way to make tons of cash.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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AAAgent

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haha im actually thinking about getting into ibanking. I'm going to take cfa lvl one in december which should help. I'm currently working with M&A and had a decent job before. I have some connections in ibanking which i hope will help. we'll see.
 

PrettyBoyA

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there's alot of money in marketing too

i own a marketing agency, not really as a consultant, but more advertising and strategic planning. in this industry it's not unusual to be making 120k or more as an account director...

being that it is my own business, i do find my time is limited, but i put alot of effort into making time to keep my social life active. i've got a girlfriend so i'm not out actively trying to pickup girls but i'm sure if i wanted to make the effort.. i could
 
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