Top tier guys

[Cheeky_James]

The point I'm trying to drill into you here is that looks do not correlate with game.

There are plenty of guys who look like me, or better, who sleep with way fewer women and/or way less attractive women.

The difference is that I developed game and they did not. Yes, it is a numbers game - that is true for dating as a whole - but there are plenty of good-looking guys who suck with women, and plenty of average-looking guys who are good with women.

Case in point: the guy whose face you had me rate.

And the point I’m trying to drill into you is that it absolutely does correlate, under usual circumstances. (Where a guy has an healthy interest in women and does actually make some efforts to approach fhem)
And if you look at every PLAYER IRL it is redic obvious that it does.

The fact that you know 3 other guys with high looks who cant be bothered to approach women or settled down young doesn’t actually prove otherwise mate. There must be an epidemic of NiceGuySyndrome in Delaware idk

To prove what you’re saying is just semantics and moving words around - just look at RSD TYLER/OWEN COOK.

He’s definitely an average looking guy, whose given 20 years FLAT OUT to getting ‘game’ with women. He’s ought to be a grandmaster player at this point. With confidence and charisma through the roof levels.
He’s put ALL the effort.., and it’s widely reported his game with women fvcking SUCKS.

he’ll go out and do 30-40 approaches (maybe more) in nightlife and get blown out over and over and over again. And that’s out there ON VIDEO. Not hearsay.


SOMEONE PLS EXPLAIN HOW CAN THIS BE?
COS HE DID EVERYTHING THATS SPROOKED AROUND HERE AS LEADING TO SUCCESS WTH WOMEN.. AND HE STILL SUCKS WITH THEM.

Ps - my mate does not have an ‘average’ face. This is my fvcking point. He’s above-average. /cuted faced. That’s how he performed so well for his height, cos he had a very handsome face mate.

TYLER was an average looking guy.
MY BUDDY was an 8 faced guy. at least!. How many different ways can I explain my point??

Sigh.

For YOU to actually prove your point .. you will have to post up a pic of an actual average looking guy that slays women with his mad confidence game… like average =5/10 . Not a 7 or an 8 faced dude.

So.., can you do that or what?
Or point towards such a guy .. THAT ISNT A TOTAL PUA FRAUD?

 

[BPH]

And the point I’m trying to drill into you is that it absolutely does correlate, under usual circumstances. (Where a guy has an healthy interest in women and does actually make some efforts to approach fhem)
And if you look at every PLAYER IRL it is redic obvious that it does.

The fact that you know 3 other guys with high looks who cant be bothered to approach women or settled down young doesn’t actually prove otherwise mate. There must be an epidemic of NiceGuySyndrome in Delaware idk

To prove what you’re saying is just semantics and moving words around - just look at RSD TYLER/OWEN COOK.

He’s definitely an average looking guy, whose given 20 years FLAT OUT to getting ‘game’ with women. He’s ought to be a grandmaster player at this point.
He’s put ALL the effort.., and it’s widely reported his game with women fvcking SUCKS.

he’ll go out and do 30-40 approaches (maybe more) in nightlife and get blown out over and over and over again.


SOMEONE PLS EXPLAIN HOW CAN THIS BE?
COS HE DID EVERYTHING THATS SPROOKED AROUND HERE AS LEADING TO SUCCESS WTH WOMEN.. AND HE STILL SUCKS WITH THEM.

Ps - my mate does not have an ‘average’ face. This is my fvcking point. He’s above-average. /cuted faced. That’s how he performed so well for his height, cos he had a very handsome face mate.

TYLER was an average looking guy.
MY BUDDY was an 8 faced guy. at least!. How many different ways can I explain my point??

Sigh.

For YOU to actually prove your point .. you will have to post up a pic of an actual average looking guy that slays women with his mad confidence game… like average =5/10 . Not a 7 or an 8 faced dude.

So.., can you do that or what?
Or point towards such a guy .. THAT ISNT A TOTAL PUA FRAUD?

Are you trying to convince us, or yourself?

Nobody really agrees with you here, and nobody thinks your friend is as attractive as you think he is.

Are you dying on this hill because admitting otherwise would destroy your argument? Since your slightly-above-average friend is still successful with women?

 

[Cheeky_James]

Are you trying to convince us, or yourself?

Nobody really agrees with you here, and nobody thinks your friend is as attractive as you think he is.

Are you dying on this hill because admitting otherwise would destroy your argument? Since your slightly-above-average friend is still successful with women?

no buddy. I’m looking for you guys to display some acfual evidence . Which of course you cannot. Because there is none. Please explain WTF happened in the case of RSD Tyler as it relates to your position.
Because that sinks everything you and everyone else is sprooking here. And means the advice on the forum is for the most part - flat out the same old PUA dreaming.

 

[BaronOfHair]

@BPH "The point I'm trying to drill into you here is that looks do not correlate with game"

Efforts to persuade dude out of beliefs he's clearly superglued himself to will remain more futile than convincing folks who are clamoring for a revival of The OC that

-Yes, the series really did air back in the early 2000s, much as it may seem like yesterday

-As such, the shows's primary stars are old as f-ck now. We're talking periomenopausal if not full blown menopause insofar as the ladies go, and thinning hair/regular prostate exams for the fellas


-Chances of a contemporary rehash soiling your rose-tinted memories of childhood are thus higher than a dope fiend who's gained unlimited access to the neighborhood methadone clinic

 

[BPH]

no buddy. I’m looking for you guys to display some acfual evidence . Which of course you cannot. Because there is none. Please explain WTF happened in the case of RSD Tyler as it relates to your position.
Because that sinks everything you and everyone else is sprooking here. And means the advice on the forum is for the most part - flat out the same old PUA dreaming.

I don't know what would satisfy you.

Looks matter, but they clearly aren't everything, or every attractive guy would automatically be swimming in pu**y - which they aren't, as evidenced by how moronic most men are in the current dating market (plenty of evidence on this very forum of that).

Furthermore, women have types, which is why a conventionally attractive man isn't necessarily a universally attractive man.

Improving in other areas of your life (confidence, money, status, power, leadership, etc.) WILL improve your abilities with women. Neglecting them and relying on looks alone WILL lead to less success than you'd have otherwise.

 

[Cheeky_James]

I don't know what would satisfy you.

Looks matter, but they clearly aren't everything, or every attractive guy would automatically be swimming in pu**y - which they aren't, as evidenced by how moronic most men are in the current dating market (plenty of evidence on this very forum of that).

Lololol.
Says WHO that they aren’t?! Wtf is this nonsense.
Cos every Chad dude I see IRL, has a hot girlfriend ? And are swimming in pvssy on the apps.
Like, obviously. This is inarguable.
Nonsensical statement 1

Furthermore, women have types, which is why a conventionally attractive man isn't necessarily a universally attractive man.

ah yes he is. David Ghandy would be a universally attractive man . He’s a globally recognised super handsome guy. As are all the other sex symbols of Hollywood. Clooney, Pitt, Mamoa etc etc
nonsensical statement 2

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An aside -btw I forgot to mention in reply to your post 2 back - there IS guys here that would agree with me dude. I can think of 3-4 guys . All guys that went through the PUA journey for many years , got success with women and then later dumped almost everything they had studied, just focused on LM, confident approaching and doing the numbers. Same thing you’re doing.

And it’s pretty funny you are arguing with me. Cos your position is very close to mine
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Now the 3rd point

Improving in other areas of your life (confidence, money, status, power, leadership, etc.) WILL improve your abilities with women. Neglecting them and relying on looks alone WILL lead to less success than you'd have otherwise.

and you are the example of a dude whose game is only ONE of those things. Confidence. And whose success is based on only ONE of those 5 + categories .

You do not have money, status, power or leadership ..Afaik?

So your game is , mostly your looks , plus a confident approach.. that’s pretty much IT.

So? You’re the proof mate.
That it’s pretty much all Looks to getting great success with women. Same as the guy next tier up from you The Chad.
(Maybe you are even Chad tier looks idk)

What else can I now say.
I’m right and we are done, I think is all I can say.

 

[BPH]

Lololol.
Says WHO that they aren’t?! Wtf is this nonsense.
Cos every Chad dude I see IRL, has a hot girlfriend ? And are swimming in pvssy on the apps.
Like, obviously. This is inarguable.
Nonsensical statement 1



ah yes he is. David Ghandy would be a universally attractive man . He’s a globally recognised super handsome guy. As are all the other sex symbols of Hollywood. Clooney, Pitt, Mamoa etc etc
nonsensical statement 2

———
An aside -btw I forgot to mention in reply to your post 2 back - there IS guys here that would agree with me dude. I can think of 3-4 guys . All guys that went through the PUA journey for many years , got success with women and then later dumped almost everything they had studied, just focused on LM, confident approaching and doing the numbers. Same thing you’re doing.

And it’s pretty funny you are arguing with me. Cos your position is very close to mine
———
Now the 3rd point


and you are the example of a dude whose game is only ONE of those things. Confidence. And whose success is based on only ONE of those 5 + categories .

You do not have money, status, power or leadership ..Afaik?

So your game is , mostly your looks , plus a confident approach.. that’s pretty much IT.

So? You’re the proof mate.
That it’s pretty much all Looks to getting great success with women. Same as the guy next tier up from you The Chad.
(Maybe you are even Chad tier looks idk)

What else can I now say.
I’m right and we are done, I think is all I can say.

 

[Cheeky_James]

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[UK manc]

Furthermore, women have types, which is why a conventionally attractive man isn't necessarily a universally attractive man.

Yeah out of personal preference I have a more clean cut aesthetic. Short hair, clean-shaven every 4 days, no tattoos, tidy clean dress with no ott jewellery etc.

Birds who want a rock star/biker look would completely swerve me! Don't care.