"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Cheeky_James

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Status people have access to other status people. You can be hotter than Callum Turner, he could be a 7 and you could a 9, still, you're a nobody, Dua Lipa might compliment you and move on. For her Callum Turner is a real good catch and vice versa, Dua Lipa is a great catch for Callum Turner.

High level celebs.

It's beyond looks there, it's status, and obviously money, which don't automatically equate to status.
dude - dreaming.
Dua Lipa like has more money and status than Callum Turner . He’s not a 7/10 :rolleyes:LMAO
he’s Top Tier guy in Looks bro. LOOKS.
He’s a 9-10/10.
For all purposes he’s a 10/10 for the mass consensus of women.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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She might have a stash of his under wear photos from the days he was modelling, she might have infatuated him as a girl, you never know,.
 

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@Atom Smasher

Oh I see it now.

"do you mean connecting and investing in her mind first? Before expecting her to invest in your c0ck?"

Apologies I meant no offense...i was actually reiterating a quote another well-respected member made awhile back. Which I and several others agreed with and I have never forgotten.



It was a general statement, not related to you personally.
Yes, I know it wasn’t related to me personally. No worries. You might remember from my years as a mod here that I always used to say that this place is toxic for women because it makes women become too much like us. They start using our cruder phrases and develop our way of thinking and expression, and this is not a healthy thing. Call me old-fashioned but I bristle at crude language coming from women. I think this is true of most men, although the societal sample represented here may have a higher concentration of men who don’t mind.
 

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@Atom Smasher I don't disagree and don't use such language IRL (except with my boyfriend during private moments when warranted ;)) I am actually quite reserved, well mannered and soft-spoken if you knew me..

I also don't disagree that in some ways this forum is a bit toxic for me while at the same time I have learned a lot from the men here too (and other female member).

I am pretty solid internally with who I am (I wasn't always but am now) and thankfully it doesn't negatively impact my way of thinking and/or living my life including relationships.

It's all good, appreciate your thoughts!
 
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Unfortunately, I don't disagree with this. But it is certainly not the advice I gravitated towards as a blue pill guy fresh out of a nasty divorce and it most definitely is not what I have preached to other guys either going through that same struggle I was or who just wanted to know the best way to get laid here over the years. I think we can all agree that getting a good physique helps and that is why you go to the gym. Also, having $$ of course helps. No one has ever denied those things and "getting into the gym and getting your career going/improving it" is good, not bad, advice. We have had posters, many in fact, over the years who are hyper-fixated on looks and money and even some who go as far to say it is "all" that matters. Wrong.

To think that is "all" it comes down to when it comes to attracting women is missing half (maybe more) of the picture. If you think swag is completely irrelevant when it comes to picking up women you are dead wrong. And it isn't some cheap PUA tactic. It comes from confidence and knowing how to handle human beings with your charisma (not only women). That is what forges connections -- romantic and otherwise.

CJ, like other black pill posters before him, is seemingly missing this point.
not a chance it is 50% of the pie buddy .
Not a snowballs chance in hell.
Way off mate.
 

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Dude come on now... really? I wouldn't go for him but hey if YOU would more power to ya man.. lol :rofl: :p

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It’s hard to gauge his height and physical frame there. It’s not a great picture.
And he didn’t pull her w his status and money elements as she has more than him.
He is still Top Tier.
I mean. He HAS to be ? He moved up and into her Top Tier circle. I guess theyd have bonded over showbiz etc but his looks would have been paramount. She’s super high value and would have been picky AF.

btw he has a Richard Gere type face / eyes.
And you know Richard Gere is up there 10/10
in terms of sex appeal. Gimme a break :rolleyes:

In fact I’d argue that type of face is the most sought after tbh. 100%
My Natural friend , slayer/pvssy magnet guy had the same face. Richard Gere / Harrison Ford ratios and eyes also.

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yknow . Basically “Chad-faced” aka Top Tier .
It’s inarguable guys , you’re coping so hard here.
 
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She might have a stash of his under wear photos from the days he was modelling, she might have infatuated him as a girl, you never know,.
hahaha. Not sure if I detect sarcasm.
As you’re proving my point he’s a 10/10.
So you’re on team . Thanks for the props brother :)
 
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