Top tier guys

[Cheeky_James]

Game has been a factor since the dawn of man. Women have always been deeply attracted to masculine energy. This phenomenon supersedes looks. Take this to the bank: when a man does the best with what he has, that is enough for most women. Looks at that point become completely irrelevant. It is all about how he makes her feel after that. An average man who shows some self-respect in the way that he presents himself will always be successful with women. That assumes, of course, that he has a well developed personality.

dude - this ‘get Game with women ‘ thing is itself a red herring.
Because it can’t really be ‘learned’.
It used to be that the word ‘Game’ meant being very successful with women, repeatedly.
A player and Don Juan.
“He’s got Game’ etc

Here it’s muddied with “ the Game of how to get 1 girlfriend’

and it’s pretty obvious that any Player who has ‘Game’ with women is also coincidentally always good looking and Handsome. Usually very much so. Especially so.

this masculine energy sh1t is again a red herring and reframe.
A handsome (aka very masculine faced ) man has lots and lots of “masculine energy”.

there can be uglier men with muscles who have masculine energy. But they don’t have a faction of the success of The Player /The Natural.
so those guys DO NOT then have ‘Game’ with women,

do you see that yet or are you still coping? Idk

 

[Atom Smasher]

Yeah I'm a bit confused about this "make her feel" as well. As if to suggest feelings can be manufactured by various strategies etc which I don't agree with.. It sounds manipulative.

@Atom Smasher do you mean connecting and investing in her mind first? Before expecting her to invest in your c0ck? If so I 100% agree with that but still, that won't "make her feel" if the chemistry/energy isn't there naturally IME.

Feelings, emotions, the "chemistry" two people feel when meeting and beyond simply exists, it's intangible and often times cannot be explained logically. It's an energy.and based on many things including looks which are subjective. It's natural and organic or should be imo and experience

CJ you may believe chemistry is based solely on looks and that's part of it however I have had experiences where a man was objectively hot but did NOT move or pull ME in the least.

Some of my friends didn't quite get it, but nope he did nothing for ME. Despite some men being models etc when I lived and worked in NYC.

Don't even ask what pulls me, I have been drawn and attracted to all different types, I just know what I like and yes "feel" when I meet him.

It's an energy. It's what I felt with my boyfriend when I first met him at a party which resulted in us talking, laughing, bantering for nearly three hours.

He also happens to be extremely handsome (to me) which was a big part of it and initially pulled me but if that natural chemistry hadn't existed between us, I wouldn't have remained talking etc for several hours and would not have said yes when he invited me out on a date.

You’ve been around here way too long to be confused by what I’m saying. I have to go out right now so can’t elaborate, but I will be able to later.
Just a quick note though. OF COURSE I’m talking about engaging her mind and emotions. That’s what starting relationships is all about. I don’t like your crude physical remark about anatomy. I got sleeping around just for the score out of my system by age 21. This is nothing but dissipation for both genders. There are two broad categories of people here: relationship-minded and physically-minded. I am firmly in the relationship-minded camp.
Anyway, I have to look a little harder later at what you said and I might have another point or two.

 

[Atom Smasher]

dude - this ‘get Game with women ‘ thing is itself a red herring.
Because it can’t really be ‘learned’.
It used to be that the word ‘Game’ meant being very successful with women, repeatedly.
A player and Don Juan.
“He’s got Game’ etc

Here it’s muddied with “ the Game of how to get 1 girlfriend’

and it’s pretty obvious that any Player who has ‘Game’ with women is also coincidentally always good looking and Handsome.

this masculine energy sh1t is again a red herring and reframe.
A handsome (aka very masculine faced ) man has lots and lots of “masculine energy”.

there can be uglier men with muscles who have masculine energy. But they don’t have a faction of the success of The Player /The Natural.
so those guys DO NOT then have ‘Game’ with women,

do you see that yet or are you still coping? Idk

Explain my transformation and success.

 

[Barrister]

dude - this ‘get Game with women ‘ thing is itself a red herring.
Because it can’t really be ‘learned’.
It used to be that the word ‘Game’ meant being very successful with women, repeatedly.
A player and Don Juan.
“He’s got Game’ etc

Here it’s muddied with “ the Game of how to get 1 girlfriend’

and it’s pretty obvious that any Player who has ‘Game’ with women is also coincidentally always good looking and Handsome. Usually very much so. Especially so.

this masculine energy sh1t is again a red herring and reframe.
A handsome (aka very masculine faced ) man has lots and lots of “masculine energy”.

there can be uglier men with muscles who have masculine energy. But they don’t have a faction of the success of The Player /The Natural.
so those guys DO NOT then have ‘Game’ with women,

do you see that yet or are you still coping? Idk

If what you are saying is true (it isn't -- just another version of the rehashed Black Pill crap we've seen here before over the years), then why continue to post here? If it really all comes down to "Looksmaxxing" and Game is immaterial to getting women, then it seems your journey on SS has come to an end and there is no reason to waste time here anymore.

Maybe you look down on others' anecdotal evidence that point to the opposite of your own experiences, but I have seen plenty of handsome fellas who struggle with women because they have zero social skills. I have also seen other "average" men looks wise clean up due to their confidence and/or charisma giving them a huge presence that made women get wet who were in their proximity before they even had opened them.

 

[Cheeky_James]

Yeah I'm a bit confused about this "make her feel" as well. As if to suggest feelings can be manufactured by various strategies etc which I don't agree with.. It sounds manipulative.

@Atom Smasher do you mean connecting and investing in her mind first? Before expecting her to invest in your c0ck? If so I 100% agree with that but still, that won't "make her feel" if the chemistry/energy isn't there naturally IME.

Feelings, emotions, the "chemistry" two people feel when meeting and beyond simply exists, it's intangible and often times cannot be explained logically. It's an energy.and based on many things including looks which are subjective. It's natural and organic or should be imo and experience

CJ you may believe chemistry is based solely on looks and that's part of it however I have had experiences where a man was objectively hot but did NOT move or pull ME in the least.

Some of my friends didn't quite get it, but nope he did nothing for ME. Despite some men being objectively hot or models etc when I lived and worked in NYC.

Don't even ask what pulls me, I have been drawn and attracted to all different types, I just know what I like and yes "feel" when I meet him.

It's an energy. It's what I felt with my boyfriend when I first met him at a party which resulted in us talking, laughing, bantering for nearly three hours.

He also happens to be extremely handsome (to me) which was a big part of it and initially pulled me but if that natural chemistry hadn't existed between us, I wouldn't have remained talking etc for several hours and would not have said yes when he invited me out on a date.

yes , you’ve raised 2 things.
To sleep with a woman a guy has to do 3 things

(A) Get attracfion (physical chemistry)

(B) relax her , turn off her threat radar ,so she can feel complete safe (to fvck) and is then ready to let herself become aroused

(C) turn her on -escalate and get her aroused enough and wet enough to have sex

I’ve come to look at it very much the same as how it would have gone down in caveman times.
Caveman meets Cavewoman
Then reread above
Some getting attraction is the big pet.
And (B) is the bit that’s debated endlessly but misses the mark,

it’s about relaxation and definitely calming down a womans fear-brain or threat radar.
As imo, a woman needs to be completely physiologically relaxed before she can enjoy sex

voila!
CJs ABC

 

[Sega Genesis]

I don’t like your crude physical remark about anatomy.

I'm sorry what? What crude remark did I make about anatomy?

I neither said nor implied anything about a man's anatomy. What are you referring to?

 

[Cheeky_James]

Explain my transformation and success.

how the fvck would I know.
I’ve never seen your face and I don’t know your body count.

I’ll hazard a guess. Shy introverted but fairly cute faced guy goes through process of realisation he has to be more extroverted more social and more assertive.

same as myself I’ll bet.
Guy comes to realise he was pretty good looking, after all.

 

[characternote]

If what you are saying is true (it isn't -- just another version of the rehashed Black Pill crap we've seen here before over the years), then why continue to post here? If it really all comes down to "Looksmaxxing" and Game is immaterial to getting women, then it seems your journey on SS has come to an end and there is no reason to waste time here anymore.

Maybe you look down on others' anecdotal evidence that point to the opposite of your own experiences, but I have seen plenty of handsome fellas who struggle with women because they have zero social skills. I have also seen other "average" men looks wise clean up due to their confidence and/or charisma giving them a huge presence that made women get wet who were in their proximity before they even had opened them.

In his defence, this forum is probably fairly well suited to what he's saying/believes.

The main advice on this forum for a very long time, has basically been 'hit the gym and get your money up'. That's what this forum is kind of known for. That's the answer to every post where a guy asks how to get more girls or how to seduce his hot new neighbour who doesn't seem interetsed in him at all.

It's been decades since this forum would answer with 'gamey' replies and tell him what techniques to use to make her want him (with verbal examples for him to try and test)

Most PUA forums have gone now, but that sort of reply would be given by the coaches on skilledseducer. The poster would be told 'you need to use NLP verbals to hijack her brain. Use some embedded commands such as 'how does it feel when YOU ARE ATTRACTED? TO ME, it kind of feels like blablabla", tell her a story about YYY and point at yourself' etc etc. But not here. This forum will tell you to hit the gym, get at good looking as possible, and get your money up. (and rightly so, tbh)