"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Top signs you haven't entered the friend zone yet....

fedagent

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Does a thread like this exist?

If not, can someone add their thoughts? I don't think entering the friendzone is a right away thing, I'm wondering what are the signs that she doesn't think of you as just a friend yet?

For example, I'm thinking if she flirts with you, you aren't swalled by the FZ yet.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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sheep-man

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if you do anything sexual, or if she talks about doing sexual things with you, anything else prob meens ure friends? im unsure someone else will prob give a better resposne
 

DJDamage

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fedagent said:
For example, I'm thinking if she flirts with you, you aren't swalled by the FZ yet.
wrong.

Women flirt all the time its like a sport for them and you could be just the "dummy" to practice on before they move on to the real thing. A quick way to find out if you are just the "dummy" or the real thing is ask her out.

There is only one sign. If you are currently fvcking her then you are not in the friendzone.
 
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