"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Top 10 Signs She's Still Interested

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So you never got over her. There is still hope assuming you have genuinely improved yourself in the meantime, so look for these signs that you're not dead in the water:

1) Her friends mention her when they see you. They know the whole story. If you had no chance the last thing they would do is to utter her name to you. But if they have been hearing gossip her peers won't be able to help mentioning her to you (and vice versa). Don't say a word, but know it's a good sign.

2) She is still angry after a long time. Indifference is the opposite of love. Hate is the negative of love and can be flipped like a light switch. You probably just need to acknowledge (not apologize for as that makes another copy) having hurt her. Don't think it's impossible for you to have hurt her even if she was losing interest first. The worst thing is when you make her feel like she's not attractive to you anymore.

3) She is still jealous of other women. This is perhaps the most selfish thing a girl can do is to dump you but then act like it's wrong for you to date other women, but it's a sign she still has feelings.

4) She responds quickly to your messages at all hours. Girls carry their phone in a holster and get every text in real time, and they are having other conversations. They have guys they want to hear from. If you're not one, you are ignored instantly. Even if they are telling you off, if they reply right away it's better than being ignored.

5) She initiates once you start communicating again. In a good relationship the girl will be initiating 2-4 times per week (and you should never communicate more than 4-5 times per week). A girl with interest (who is not scorned) will initiate a text conversation at least once a week. You can safely initiate as many times per week as she does. Make sure you are not too available early on.

6) She sends multi-part messages. When they take the time to exceed the 140 character limit, even just to rant, they are normally interested.

7) She uses her terms of endearment toward you. These vary but could be as simple as a smiley face (if she doesn't use them that often).

8) She uses sexual keywords, even in the negative sense. "I will not kiss you, I will not hug you, I will not make love to you". Now imagine if you said to your date: "I will not molest small children". See how it works? Subconciously, the "not" means little compared to the words and phrases that were used. When she uses these words in a negative sense, feed them back to her: "You will NOT make mad, passionate love to me?" She then has to think about it. Her response will be another indication - was it "Ewww"? Or ":)"?

9) She wants to introduce you to one of her best friends. That is proof she has been talking about you in a positive way. If it's one of the friends shown in her FB profile picture, and/or is frequently shown in her "top 8" on her home page, it's an even better sign.

10) She's beautiful when she's angry. You can't miss this one. She can be screaming and yelling and want to kill you but there will still be an unmistakeable look in her eye. "Who do you think you are???.... or ARE you?"

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Did you ever get a girl back? What were the early signs that you can now confirm were good ones?
 
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I feel like this is for very early stage beginners. Jealous of other girls, uses terms of endearment, uses sexual keywords.... someone has to read a list to know this means she's interested?

I feel like looking for these signs is a sure-fire way to get a bad case of oneitis. There is nothing "new" in that list, but plenty to make your thoughts about a single girl (who you have already lost) go way too far...
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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persistence most of time just make you tired and you lose time with a girl who don't deserve you even look at her way, if its done, then its done, bang her best friend just to let her be extra mad and if the friend is hot and move on.
 

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@Pdubb75: If all these things in the OP were so obvious, how is it that half the forum have been saying all along none of these things is a IOI?
 
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bigneil said:
@Pdubb75: If all these things in the OP were so obvious, how is it that half the forum have been saying all along none of these things is a IOI?
I'm not aware of half the forum saying none of those are IOIs. I can't answer that question, because I don't know that to be true.
 

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bigneil said:
3) She is still jealous of other women. This is perhaps the most selfish thing a girl can do is to dump you but then act like it's wrong for you to date other women, but it's a sign she still has feelings.
There are a few women who rejected me yet they do this and get extra pissy when I pay no attention to them at all. Just shows how screwed in the head they were all along, they had their chance but didn't take it and now they'd rather be angry at a distance like that'll somehow make me give them a second chance. Probably they had another option at the time that didn't pan out, well sorry but I'm nobody's consolation prize.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Zerro said:
There are a few women who rejected me yet they do this and get extra pissy when I pay no attention to them at all. Just shows how screwed in the head they were all along, they had their chance but didn't take it and now they'd rather be angry at a distance like that'll somehow make me give them a second chance. Probably they had another option at the time that didn't pan out, well sorry but I'm nobody's consolation prize.
Here here Zerro. If they didn't really want you at first chance (let alone multiple), then you move on and they get pissed. F**k em.
 

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Here here Zerro. If they didn't really want you at first chance (let alone multiple), then you move on and they get pissed. F**k em.
Exactly, a woman who's worth it won't do this stupid crap to you. If anything they're jealous that she chose wisely the first time.
 

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Any woman who's stupid enough to chase some butterfly c0ck instead of a hard DJ doesn't deserve the DJ fvcking she'd get.
 
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