Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
guru1000 said:Do we have choices as to the markets we choose and how much wealth we could accumulate?
Took you a few days to come up with this. Ah shut up
Another facile statement.guru1000 said:We're in the same market. We have the same leads. We have the same resources at our disposal. If the market is not bad for me, why, then, is it bad for you?
I agree, they don't disagree all that much. guru1000 does seem to be shaming (guru1000 I agree with your theory, I just think you're talking about spinning plates rather than long term relationships/marriages). I'm not going to hate on someone who goes overseas (especially to Asia) for a wife. We all have an inner longing for that companionship, and at this point, that's the best place to find it, IN GENERAL. There are good women in the US, but they are the minority.PairPlusRoyalFlush said:you guys are talking past each other, obviously marriage oriented people should look elsewhere for a wife, but busting a nut is easy to do in the US.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
I'm shaming men by encouraging them to be the best men they can be?speed dawg said:guru1000 does seem to be shaming
Why not get a superior model in the U.S., and use the value you attained to secure such model to live an incredible life?BeTheChange said:If you're millionaire then it doesn't suddenly mean you should by your Patek Phillipe from the US when you can get a superior model for the same price in Switzerland.
I'm sorry my tough love disturbs you. Like I tell my clients, I don't mind twisting your arm and even breaking it, as long as I mend it later with a golden cast.Your original point still does not make any economic sense and amounts to "I can get hot chicks so why can't the rest of you". It is a humblebrag at best and embarrassingly condescending at worst.
Outstanding post and comparison. I couldn't agree more. I have success with women domestically and internationally and that's on a regular basis due to travel.Tenacity said:Guru, I understand personally what you are saying, but your premise assumes that the reason a guy can't "acquire" one of these women in the U.S. is because it's something directly and proportionally wrong with their "value". What if it's not the value of the solution along with the guy selling it (the guys in the US) but it's a problem with the market they are being told to sell into (the women of the US)?
This remains me of Sales Managers I had when I first started off my Career. They would lock us in a Call Center and tell us how much we needed to sell, give the rah-rah motivational speech, etc.
But about 80% of the prospects they told us to call were either out of the market, unqualified targets, out of business, didn't fit generic qualifications, and didn't even relate to the products we were offerings. In other words, we had VERY bad leads.
But the Sales Managers we had at the time couldn't see this shyt, which is why I eventually left (as well as a bunch of guys, this is how Sales companies like this experience high turn-over). All the experience gave me was initial experience because you developed your sales style, learned to handle rejections and if you could sell ANY decent amount of volume with the horrific leads you were provided by this company, then you knew you had somewhat of a future in sales.![]()
What I'm saying Guru is sometimes the market you are being told to sell into, is a bad market, so bad that it's difficult to impossible for even the BEST sales guy to hit quota. Think about it, if the US market of women were so great, why are the Top 1% of guys in the country (the top earning/handsome celebrities) having issues with marriage, divorce, alimony and child support payments?
Is it just me, or is this gold coin idea kind of intriguing? I mean who woudn't want to have some real, easy to keep safe assest, that are not held in an electronic account? Somthing tangible?prison/con.net said:Im WARNING you all to get a vasectomy FIRST, and to cache the 30k+ (per year) in the form of gold coins, in holes in the ground, at night, where only YOU know.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Not every man is willing to spend all his life becoming a man who a hot woman want , lets say I am writer , and for a hot woman I am boring person , to change that it require a lot of efforts and giving up a lot of thing I enjoy it . so your theory is wrong , not every man can be the man that hot women desire , put aside genetic and age . and remember you have limited time in this life , you cant waist it improving your self instead of living it .I'm shaming men by encouraging them to be the best men they can be?
Add FOUR points (or more) to your SMV with plastic surgery? In your 50s?guru1000 said:What I would do instead especially at the age of 50+ is invest 10k per year into myself. Here is what I would recommend to attain 4 pts+ onto your SMV:
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
what is the problem with "augmentation" and botox? trying to inflict pain on my body to please some fake woman comes to my mind, plus its far more easier you take the money you would use on "augmentation" and do some travelling, also take note its more harder to change a behavior in a short time, plus you also consider the dude will go 100% beta with the foreign girl and not keep his frame with a less entitled annoying *****, sure he can find annoying entitled ***** foreign girl, but then the problem will be more of him not choosing well and in that case don't matter where he goes.guru1000 said:Zekko, seem to be flying off the handle lately without reading the context of what is being written. Are you OK buddy--or is that menopause? Maybe you should look to that TRT we discussed in the other thread.
We have men on this thread marrying women offshore of higher SMV and bringing them to the U.S. What's wrong with volumizers and Botox to augment appearance for those who need it? Or rhinoplasty/chin augmentation to balance facial aesthetics? Or Ultherapy to tighten up the skin naturally? These are not facelifts which distort the face. Explain why these self-improvement augmentations are bad but marrying an offshore wife of higher SMV and bringing her back to the U.S. is the better option.
If you can secure women of your liking domestically without improvements, great. But that's not the subject matter at hand.
Further, common sense would dictate that if you are a 7 already, you couldn't achieve an 11. But maybe you need that spelled out.
LOL. This is your grand rebuttal, really?Alvafe said:what is the problem with "augmentation" and botox? trying to inflict pain on my body to please some fake woman comes to my mind,
No need to get insulting just because we've been on the opposite side of a few subjects lately.guru1000 said:Zekko, seem to be flying off the handle lately without reading the context of what is being written. Are you OK buddy--or is that menopause? Maybe you should look to that TRT we discussed in the other thread.
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.