Too many red flags ?

[exoskeletor]

Treading cautiously with this girl I've been smashing, thought I'd take advice from y'all

A couple of red flags :

Lot of tattoos, one on her tits and near her vagina

Self harms

Major daddy issues and abandoned father

Lot of ex boyfriends and stalking and huge drama involved

No real female friends

Lot of guy friends/ orbiters/ exes/ flings in the picture with low contact

Her mom seems to be slutty

Near about 6 partners at 18 yo

Sisters warns me about her hooking up with a lot of guys

Seems to have jumped from guy to guy in a short span of time

Seems to be hot for rich guy friends

Is it possible to tame her by any kind of "alphaness" cuz she's hot and swallows after showing every time.


She seems like a kid, like in a retarded sense, playing scare pranks and drawing on faces. Like a 12yo. Could she be a BPD waif because she doesn't act like the regular slut.
I'm 6'2, 21 yo banged 20+ women in my life

 

[ChangePages]

No, she definitely has BPD signs. You can't beat her at this game. Countless of guys have tried to 'tame' her just like you and it will always end badly. With these type of girls, the only way to keep her around is to be a complete sociopath.

Any emotion shown and she sees it, even if its early in the relationship is done and over with. She plays the game better than you. No matter how many girls you've slept with. Her ultimate goal is to outplay you. They don't act like regular sluts because that's the face they put on. These girls will NEVER give you 100% of them. They're insecure and unstable of their self-worth. Again, you have to be a complete sociopath to stay with these women and to handle their tempers and even for a sociopath it gets annoying.

Don't be fooled by their charm and words.

 

[exoskeletor]

No, she definitely has BPD signs. You can't beat her at this game. Countless of guys have tried to 'tame' her just like you and it will always end badly. With these type of girls, the only way to keep her around is to be a complete sociopath.

Any emotion shown and she sees it, even if its early in the relationship is done and over with. She plays the game better than you. No matter how many girls you've slept with. Her ultimate goal is to outplay you. They don't act like regular sluts because that's the face they put on. These girls will NEVER give you 100% of them. They're insecure and unstable of their self-worth. Again, you have to be a complete sociopath to stay with these women and to handle their tempers and even for a sociopath it gets annoying.

Don't be fooled by their charm and words.

There hasn't been any raging or nagging just passive aggressiveness and snide remarks out of the blue, she scratches herself during arguments

 

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[exoskeletor]

Isn't this your second post about her?

Yep you are right man, I keep doubting myself over and over again, I dump her and she cries and ****s me again and the whole cycle starts again, it seems like she doesn't want to let me go.

At the same time she keeps making me jealous while talking about other guy friends. I don't understand why would she keep ****ing me if she isn't interested in me and is playing me ?

You talked about HPD, you've read my earlier thread, I'm mind ****ed by her already and I've started to doubt my own sanity as to what is it she wants. She spends on me, goes against her parents for me, agrees to all my wishes.

But it seems like shes really nice for all her 'guy friends'. What the hell is this creature ? Not the typical slut

 

[ChangePages]

Yep you are right man, I keep doubting myself over and over again, I dump her and she cries and ****s me again and the whole cycle starts again, it seems like she doesn't want to let me go.

At the same time she keeps making me jealous while talking about other guy friends. I don't understand why would she keep ****ing me if she isn't interested in me and is playing me ?

You talked about HPD, you've read my earlier thread, I'm mind ****ed by her already and I've started to doubt my own sanity as to what is it she wants. She spends on me, goes against her parents for me, agrees to all my wishes.

But it seems like shes really nice for all her 'guy friends'. What the hell is this creature ? Not the typical slut

She's already playing to your emotions. You already lost. No turning back, she will make you suffer the longer this goes. Don't say I told you so.

 

[GoodOne123]

Yep you are right man, I keep doubting myself over and over again, I dump her and she cries and ****s me again and the whole cycle starts again, it seems like she doesn't want to let me go.

At the same time she keeps making me jealous while talking about other guy friends. I don't understand why would she keep ****ing me if she isn't interested in me and is playing me ?

You talked about HPD, you've read my earlier thread, I'm mind ****ed by her already and I've started to doubt my own sanity as to what is it she wants. She spends on me, goes against her parents for me, agrees to all my wishes.

But it seems like shes really nice for all her 'guy friends'. What the hell is this creature ? Not the typical slut

I've dated a girl like this. Like yours she self harmed, along with a history of being abused. She was crazy, and like your girl, she did wierd ****. I can guarantee that you will waste your time, peace of mind, and sanity if you let her stay around much longer.

In short, yes she is playing you. She bangs you because she uses it as a manipulation tool, to keep you around, to reel you in, to get you emotionally attached. Let me guess, she seems to be much more eager to please you in bed compared to other girls right? That's deliberately done, for the reasons above.

She makes you jealous so she can elicit an emotional response from you. She wants to see you worried to lose her. She wants to see you hurt by her flirting/banging other guys. Again, it's manipulation.

Why can't she just be normal and have a regular casual or serious relationship without all this drama, craziness and manipulation? Because she's sick, that's why. She's a damn psycho. Sorry if it bothers you, but that's the blunt answer.

Now you can choose to leave, or stay. I'd obviously recommended you leave. A man worth anything won't take this crap for long. Besides, you said you had over 20 girls, if that's the case then you should have no problem finding another girl in no time, so why would you be so fixated on this psycho?

 

[Billtx49]

Why is he fixated ? Try PTSD. It explains it.

 

[GoodOne123]

Not only can it be ptsd accumulated from the relationship but a bunch of other things.

Op can have deep issues of his own.

This can be taking satisfaction from helping or fixing someone. Essentially it is like having a lover, and taking care of an immature child, all mixed in one big rancid stew. That's not healthy or desirable. This can be desirable to individuals however, who have complex ptsd rooted in childhood trauma or turmoil, that can ignite the desire to be a fixer in future relationships.

I'm not saying op defo has this, but if he feels cool with hanging with this chick, this might be why. Normal dudes usually run away from these nutjobs, unless it's a quick lay or two.

 

[exoskeletor]

Not only can it be ptsd accumulated from the relationship but a bunch of other things.

Op can have deep issues of his own.

This can be taking satisfaction from helping or fixing someone. Essentially it is like having a lover, and taking care of an immature child, all mixed in one big rancid stew. That's not healthy or desirable. This can be desirable to individuals however, who have complex ptsd rooted in childhood trauma or turmoil, that can ignite the desire to be a fixer in future relationships.

I'm not saying op defo has this, but if he feels cool with hanging with this chick, this might be why. Normal dudes usually run away from these nutjobs, unless it's a quick lay or two.

Thanks for the insight, I don't think I have the caretaker tendency, if the immature child wants to **** her **** up, let her, she used to harm herself and I used to be curious than empathetic as to why she does it.

Which red flags certify that she's indeed whacked out ?

 

[GoodOne123]

Thanks for the insight, I don't think I have the caretaker tendency, if the immature child wants to **** her **** up, let her, she used to harm herself and I used to be curious than empathetic as to why she does it.

Which red flags certify that she's indeed whacked out ?

The most glaring red flags are the self harming, daddy issues, exes STILL in the picture, loves drama, and failing to have a healthy LTR multiple times. To see all those red flags at once should send you in alert mode from the start.

But usually you should also get a gut feeling, if you get an intuition to get away, it's usually right.

The reason girls like this are dangerous is because they might threaten suicide, lie about you to the cops, try to get you in jail etc. That on top of the anguish, manipulation, and stress they give you, makes for a tough hit to take. This is why crazy women are to be avoided.

 

[Roober]

My ex dated a guy for 4 months exclusively, but used to always tell me, "I was with him, but that relationship doesn't really count as anything..." Would that be a red flag?

 

[Roober]

Why do you give a fvck?

Real question.

Is that for OP?

 

[exoskeletor]

Why do you give a fvck?

Real question.

It's just that these red flags appeared very slowly over a period of months and ***** cemented me in her amazing cute girl frame by then.

If I hadn't checked her phone, which I never ever cared enough before, I wouldn't have seen **** happening behind my back.

Ex1: miss me ?
Her : Yea, not the sex tho
Ex1: Why ?
Her : It's overpowering

Ex2: Wanna meet ?
Her: Yea anytime anywhere Monday to Friday

Ex3: Wanna meet ?
Her: You won't like me.
Ex3: I care about you


Surprisingly it's hard to believe that she'd been playing me or whatever but the
extreme submission,
agreeing to everything I say,
****ing my brains out,
parading me to her friends and family,
buying me gifts.

Benefit of doubt was given and I got drawn in the whirlpool
I confronted her but was gaslighted hard, she's just 'joking'. They are just friends.
Balls.

 

[exoskeletor]

The most glaring red flags are the self harming, daddy issues, exes STILL in the picture, loves drama, and failing to have a healthy LTR multiple times. To see all those red flags at once should send you in alert mode from the start.

But usually you should also get a gut feeling, if you get an intuition to get away, it's usually right.

The reason girls like this are dangerous is because they might threaten suicide, lie about you to the cops, try to get you in jail etc. That on top of the anguish, manipulation, and stress they give you, makes for a tough hit to take. This is why crazy women are to be avoided.

Thank you. I've never encountered a crazy chick before, and never been ****ed like a pornstar, the fog in the head is taking time to clear