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What matters for a woman is what a man can do for her today. The past means nothing to her.

Women are just like society.
Women only care about what value you can provide in the present, so does society. Women care about a man’s image, value, usefulness, money, so does society. Women do not care about your emotions, so does society.

As long as a man keeps his emotions to himself and provides value to a woman (just like society), he will be successful.
 

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If you get some mileage with a high-interest women, then you may make some memories with her that will outlast the relationship, (sometimes that's not a good thing to be flooded with memories from something that didn't work out because that sort of leaves a hole in the gut and can be sort of jarring, however, I think that's offset by having a life bucket-list purged out).

For example, going to places in the city that you wouldn't normally go to by yourself, like an aquarium or stage play or something just out of the ordinary. Just haven't tried horseback riding alongside with a high-interest woman yet. But then again, you save money when you are not dating.
 

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A woman always knows when it’s over. There is no buffer. There is no lag. It happens in real time.
Old buddy of mine used to say all the time.
"They are either yea or nea" Lol
Funny stuff true af.
 

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I take no pride in the game at all, I've found it's mostly about looks and status. If they like your look it becomes easy. If not, its difficult. Nothing to take pride in really.
 

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I take no pride in the game at all, I've found it's mostly about looks and status. If they like your look it becomes easy. If not, its difficult. Nothing to take pride in really.
Man this is some pretty depressive stuff compared to the optimism there was in the internet's PUA days when anything was possible. Would you always have said this? Maybe it's my skewed awareness but you seem to have changed somewhat lately.
 
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Man this is some pretty depressive stuff compared to the optimism there was in the internet's PUA days when anything was possible. Would you always have said this? Maybe it's my skewed awareness but you seem to have changed somewhat lately.
I'm just saying people shouldn't take pride in their dating life when it's mostly who you are and not what you do(within reason). This is something I learned with experience. I used to think every little thing I did was so important, but you live and learn. The most dangerous trend is the belief you can control women, which is the frame crowd here. Beyond hubris.
 

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I am noticing more interest from women RIGHT AFTER Valentines Day (the 14th). Here it is the 16th and there's scoping or prospecting for d!ck, MY d!ck, today (at a grocery store with a batty vegetarian store clerk) and yesterday (at the grocery store, her supposed boyfriend there lagging behind her she tilted her head to me under me and smiled and went out her way to interact with me while her boyfriend or husband was looking intently in another isle, she was about my age so I'm not interested but I'm sure she could suck a mean c0ck and be "sexy").
 

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I am noticing more interest from women RIGHT AFTER Valentines Day (the 14th). Here it is the 16th and there's scoping or prospecting for d!ck, MY d!ck, today (at a grocery store with a batty vegetarian store clerk) and yesterday (at the grocery store, her supposed boyfriend there lagging behind her she tilted her head to me under me and smiled and went out her way to interact with me while her boyfriend or husband was looking intently in another isle, she was about my age so I'm not interested but I'm sure she could suck a mean c0ck and be "sexy").
Just the nature of our society today, it means if you see a bf or husband, you can assume he is beaten down and cheated a bit. That he accepts some bullshyt because "that's how it is".
 

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Isn't that contradictory though? Why would a MASCULINE man want a "motherly" woman to take care of him?
How is that contradictory? The male performs the masculine, the female performs the feminine.

Which sex is the one that nurtures and cares for others?
 

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Man this is some pretty depressive stuff compared to the optimism there was in the internet's PUA days when anything was possible. Would you always have said this? Maybe it's my skewed awareness but you seem to have changed somewhat lately.
When I Altavista'd "how to ask out a girl" and found Sosuave in 2000, it was like I'd found a book of secrets and had newfound power. I still feel that way. I wonder why things are so negative in general these days?
 
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When I Altavista'd "how to ask out a girl" and found Sosuave in 2000, it was like I'd found a book of secrets and had newfound power. I still feel that way. I wonder why things are so negative in general these days?
I'm glad you're still so positive. My impression is that the PUA tactics were given time and debunked, which is why the atmosphere is more pessimistic these days. Back then it was new and exciting, and the feeling was "Wow, could this work? This is going to work". But then it was shown not to.

Which is not to say all that information is garbage. Some of it is, but a lot of it is just good common sense life advice for living as men. But there is no magic pill.

I used to love Altavista, by the way. It was my first favorite search engine, until Google came around. Google is so much better, it's ridiculous.
 

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Man this is some pretty depressive stuff compared to the optimism there was in the internet's PUA days when anything was possible. Would you always have said this? Maybe it's my skewed awareness but you seem to have changed somewhat lately.
That optimism was actually delusional cope....PUA has always been a load of BS....
 

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How is that contradictory? The male performs the masculine, the female performs the feminine.

Which sex is the one that nurtures and cares for others?
The man provides and protects.
 

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I'm glad you're still so positive. My impression is that the PUA tactics were given time and debunked, which is why the atmosphere is more pessimistic these days. Back then it was new and exciting, and the feeling was "Wow, could this work? This is going to work". But then it was shown not to.

Which is not to say all that information is garbage. Some of it is, but a lot of it is just good common sense life advice for living as men. But there is no magic pill.

I used to love Altavista, by the way. It was my first favorite search engine, until Google came around. Google is so much better, it's ridiculous.
Well, I don't mean the hard core PUA stuff. Just the general self-empowering info about being confident, talking to women, being funny, etc. I never went for the hackneyed routines, although there's good info everywhere like you said. SoSuave always seemed to me more about just pumping yourself up and living life.

Altavista was one of the first search engines I used, from when I took an IT course in college in the 90s. Incidentally, I still have the same account for nytimes.com from 1996. Probably the first website for which I created a membership. The internet was amazing to me in those days. Still is.

But it's amazing how long Google has held the mantle...took over around 2000 and still going strong.
 

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The man provides and protects.
Absolutely agree.

When a woman is being Motherly towards her man, do you interpret that as providing and protecting?

A woman will prepare food for her husband and children, but that is not providing. A woman will protect her children alongside the man, but she is not the first line of protection for the family.
 
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Absolutely agree.

When a woman is being Motherly towards her man, do you interpret that as providing and protecting?
My mother wears the pants in my home. If a man is not working and expects the woman to work, and provide AND respect him and give him sex on demand while he watches TV all day and grows a bear-gut, then I guess that would be motherly. (just kidding)

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A woman will prepare food for her husband and children, but that is not providing. A woman will protect her children alongside the man, but she is not the first line of protection for the family.
The man puts the food in the fridge, but the woman prepares the meal in the fridge. Empty fridge man's fault. Full fridge but no food is woman's fault. I get that.

If you don't have work or a good job, then marriage is the worst experience in my limited experience. My marriage in the past crashed badly because of issues like that. Allot of people avoid marriage altogether, like the plague, if they can't fund it. No money in a marriage equals a disaster. If you have a real woman that would go homeless with you and live on the streets with you then you've got a keeper. Most women are not like that.
 

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My mother wears the pants in my home. If a man is not working and expects the woman to work, and provide AND respect him and give him sex on demand while he watches TV all day and grows a bear-gut, then I guess that would be motherly. (just kidding)



The man puts the food in the fridge, but the woman prepares the meal in the fridge. Empty fridge man's fault. Full fridge but no food is woman's fault. I get that.

If you don't have work or a good job, then marriage is the worst experience in my limited experience. My marriage in the past crashed badly because of issues like that. Allot of people avoid marriage altogether, like the plague, if they can't fund it. No money in a marriage equals a disaster. If you have a real woman that would go homeless with you and live on the streets with you then you've got a keeper. Most women are not like that.
LOL @ a woman giving sex to her couch potato man and it being Motherly. Glad my Mom never did that!

We're on the same page. Men can't be slobs either and need to have passion in life.

If a man has passion and is masculine, the woman will spend her energy nurturing the man.

They are a purely complementary force to be reckoned with when feminists (and those who drive feminism) are not too busy trying to destroy the family unit.
 

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Interesting perspective.

I still don't understand why men are the romantic idealists. In society romantic novels and movies are constantly targeted to women, not men. Why are women not romantically idealistic?
I don't know if you've ever read a romantic novel, but it's usually full of drama, sexual tension, cheating, backstabbing, and taboos. There's usually a cuck in every story too. Sometimes a cuck is needed as a plot mechanism to add to the drama. The more obstacles there are, the greater the sexual/romantic tension between the star crossed lovers.

When you don't know who the cuck in the room is, it might be you, lol.

As for guy's romantic idealism, look no further than the title of this thread. Men have a lot of pride and ego. A woman is interested and suddenly we think we are the only one. But the woman might just be starving for validation. She likes you because you validated her. But after the newness of your validation runs out, she moves on.

I would say this is 90% of relationships these days. Two needy and neurotic people projecting their own fantasies on to one another.

The best way to avoid these types of women is to have a life. It sounds simple but most guys have no life outside of chasing women. When you are needy, the women you attract will ALSO be needy.

People that are on each other's wavelength always find each other. And together, they can either create the most beautiful relationships or the most toxic relationships.

So given that your women are a mirror reflection of you, you should avoid social media, get a life full of hobbies and passions, get a social life that is full of fun, adventure, and cool people, and become your own ecosystem to the point where you don't need anyone to complete you.

If all else fails, find a purpose that takes 100% of your will. Something worthy that will benefit your community.

And when a woman who is on your wavelength shows up, she will have the same exact qualities. There would be no neurotic projections. It's just two complete people sharing in their completeness.

It sounds simple but most guys don't want to do this. They want to take shortcuts (chasing after chicks with no life) and end up in the BPD threads.
 
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I think the problem is that childless women have too much choice. Women need to get knocked up so that their options are limited, forcing them to stay with the baby daddy.
 
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