suavesuave
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Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Still a limiting belief.seasonedplayer said:You are missing the point. Your 5 foot 4 mate can pull chicks HE KNOWS from class and has the opportunity of being charming. Place him in a loud club in front of chicks he is meeting for the first time and I bet he struggles
:yes: :yes: :yes:Derek Flint said:There will always be someone taller, richer, better physique, better looking, has more game, whatever.
It's just an excuse.
Want to get better with girls? Go to clubs where your competition is tougher.
It will cause you to step up your game.
Or to complain and quit.
I'm 6' 1" and have lost girls to guys that were 5' 8" back in the day, before I had game, and it could still very well happen.
You can't do anything about your height, so quit crying about it and improve on things you can control, your attitude being one of them.
MooseGod said:The club scene is so fvcking shallow it doesn't even seem real...who cares? It's not about the other guys, it's about the girls. All these douches have a look on their faces like they want to start a fight with every guy they see....good thing you're short and off their radar.
Really man, let these insecure douchebags fight every guy they see...but while they're fighting, sweep in and take their women. Make no apologies. You're not there at the club to give a damn about the competition, you're there to find a drunk floozie to fvck 'till dawn.
OUCH, why so harsh mate?:trouble:Texas Tornado said:wow this is the most pathetic sh1t i've ever read in my life. let's quickly review what went down here. you're 5'8 and good looking according to your description. you went to a club with a bunch of tall people. you thought that chicks weren't looking at you. you didn't even talk to any because you're a pvssy. you went home and you cried that they didn't look at you even though you didn't even try to talk to any. and now even though you just went to the club and did jack sh1t you somehow came to the conclusion that wutang is right. without even doing anything. the only thing that caused you to come to this "epiphany" was the fact that there happened to be many tall folk at the club that night and that girls werent eye fvcking you. god you're stupid
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
I don't see why these guys are douches just because they were gifted 5 or 6 inches taller than youSnowman23 said:I don't care how much confidence I think I have, I'm good-looking and 5'8", and am dwarfed by these douches.
What you mean is several ATTRACTIVE girls...average chics don't matter and could severely limit your perceived status.MillenniumMike said:Come in the club with several girls and you will get the most attention, a female entourage beats muscles and height any day.
Cr1msonKing said:Average chicks could help too. Its better than nothing.
I don't know too many guys who roll with a entourage of attractive girls to a club.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Duffdog said:I disagree, Just me by myself nets more attractive girls than having a bunch of average females with me.
Well...now you know at least one guy who frequents clubs with hotties in tow. Just think, the last time you saw a guy with an armful of 9s and 10s, did you notice him and wonder how he did that?
Thought so.
Stop blowing these sex differences up to epic proportions.Lexington said:Girls have better peripheral vision than guys so they can see you even if you think they are out of their field of vision
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
I'm going to the 2030 party this sat-- I will take extra pics just for you!Solomon said:Duff
you need to post them FR's with pics asap my dude
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asid76 said:BUT...as far as walking up and piqeuing their interest, I dont believe my height is a factor. As long as one is interesting and keeps the conversation going and injects some humour into the convo you'll be fine.
Use being short as part of the opener...like: "Does this necklace make me look short?" etc. Jokes work well; don't take everything so seriously.
mrRuckus said:Stop blowing these sex differences up to epic proportions.
Women aren't super duper better at reading emotions or body language. They don't have a 360 degree field of vision. They have no idea what you are thinking. They aren't speaking telepathically while you grunt.
Women are CLUELESS. I don't know where you guys get the idea that they have any idea what's going on. Go read any message board relationship garbage for women and it will be full of stupid women who have no idea or worse, THINK they have some idea.
Women DO have better peripheral vision than men. That's a scientific fact. Men's vision is more forward focused because males are hunters. No one is suggesting women have 360 degree vision but it is a proven fact that women can see side to side better than men. Women can sometimes see you from the corner of their eyes when you think they can't.mrRuckus said:Stop blowing these sex differences up to epic proportions.
Women aren't super duper better at reading emotions or body language. They don't have a 360 degree field of vision. They have no idea what you are thinking. They aren't speaking telepathically while you grunt.
Women are CLUELESS. I don't know where you guys get the idea that they have any idea what's going on. Go read any message board relationship garbage for women and it will be full of stupid women who have no idea or worse, THINK they have some idea.
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.