"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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too many good-looking tall dudes at clubs

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damn it's so hard to holler at girls when these buff ass tall guys are all around.

I don't care how much confidence I think I have, I'm good-looking and 5'8", and am dwarfed by these douches. I walk by girls and most don't even look at me, the ones that do just keep going. and it really sucks because I'm not bad looking.

it's such a huge hit to my ego. most of you are probly gonna say "oh quit being a pvssy, just approach them."

What, so I can get shot down?? rofl

As much as it pains me to say it.. and I mean PAINS me..

wutang is right.

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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Stop crying, and go get the chicks.

Your obviously not confident if your still whinging about the 'taller guys'.
 

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Snowman23 said:
What, so I can get shot down?? rofl
ZOMG LOLZ.

It is your responsibility as a man (that is if you are a man) to approach women. The ones that do give you eye contact are giving you an opening to talk to them. If you get shot down it means you need to improve. Are you willing to improve or are you going to be a whiny little b!tch like wutangwanker?

As much as it pains me to say it.. and I mean PAINS me..

wutang is right.

end of discussion
Wutang is no-one. He doesn't have the balls to go get what he wants. All he can do is make up excuses for his shortcomings. "O, i'm going to move to another country because my height is average over there" Who the fu<k would move to another country because of their height?

Man up.
 

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Snowman23 said:
damn it's so hard to holler at girls when these buff ass tall guys are all around.

I don't care how much confidence I think I have, I'm good-looking and 5'8", and am dwarfed by these douches. I walk by girls and most don't even look at me, the ones that do just keep going. and it really sucks because I'm not bad looking.

it's such a huge hit to my ego. most of you are probly gonna say "oh quit being a pvssy, just approach them."

What, so I can get shot down?? rofl

As much as it pains me to say it.. and I mean PAINS me..

wutang is right.

end of discussion
Is he the fella that constantly complains about his height being the reason why he can't get girls?? And you're ignoring the advise of others and listening to somebody who cannot get girls!

It's not height thats the issue believe me. I'm no giant but I'm about 6ft 1 and it certainly never got me many girls because I use to blame other things instead of concentrating on making myself a more attractive (personality wise) person.

You can use it as an excuse or just ACCEPT it! Just say yes this is me I accept it. When you begin to accept it you'll find a weight has been lifted off your shoulders.

The small men who get women have no height issues and thats the key to it. How can somebody like you if you don't like yourself?
 

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I haven't noticed more buff dudes in the club but I have noticed alot of guys wearing more fight gear t-shirts showing off their physic better then it would appear if they were to just wear collared shirts. Fortunately it's a double edged sword cause their are plenty of fat guys who think they can pull off the same look.

There has definately been a surg of buff guys at the pools and pool parties here in vegas. I was at Wet Republic and Ditch at my casino and the Palms and they're pretty much daytime outdoor night clubs. Fortunately I have a solid diet and a daily workout routine so I look great. If I didn't I'm not sure if I'd show up at all. Competition is a little fiercer then I'd prefer were i not, by current standards, an "average" competetitor.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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PRMoon said:
I haven't noticed more buff dudes in the club but I have noticed alot of guys wearing more fight gear t-shirts showing off their physic better then it would appear if they were to just wear collared shirts. Fortunately it's a double edged sword cause their are plenty of fat guys who think they can pull off the same look.
Everybody wears fight stuff now? **** America is a fad based society isnt it?
 

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the man with issues is you !! you cant wish tall men not to go to clubs soo that u can have ur balls emptied into a girl..get the damn notion outa your damn head and play or else be faithfull to ur right hand and bottle of shampoo
 

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man, you aint confident. you a pvzzie

if you was confident you wouldn't give a muck about talls guys in the club

my bro if short as hell and scores more chicks than his tall friends

buck up pvzzie
 

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man, you aint confident. you a pvzzie

if you was confident you wouldn't give a muck about talls guys in the club

my bro if short as hell and scores more chicks than his tall friends

buck up pvzzie
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Phoenix_of_the_ashes said:
Everybody wears fight stuff now? **** America is a fad based society isnt it?
Yes, everybody here wears it. We're all into it hardcore yo.


dumbass.
 

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Just give up, it's easier than complaining.
 

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Look for women who are choosing you. Those who give you strong eye contact and talk to them. Don't go running up to every girl in the club. Let your personality win over some tall buff guys good looks. I'm 5'8 and have done it before. At the end of the night I hear "your so cute, and fun" and later I hear "oh I'm cumming!" :) Don't let your height stop you, just remember you can't have every woman in the club, just the ones who are choosing you. Look for choosing signals and go from there. Did you see any choosing signals at all or where you too busy looking at buff doods? :)

And...try going to the clubs a bit early sometimes. The last few weeks I've been going out early so I can get home early and get up the next morning for the gym or work. I've seen a higher quality type of girl there early. They leave earlier as well. They are just coming for a little fun...not the hardcore club slvts you catch walking in the door at 1 and 2 am. They seem to be more open to convos too. Your milage may vary in your area.

Try some new hunting grounds. Try clubs you don't usually go to. Lounges, bars, bookstores, resturants. Things like that. Good luck man. And stop looking at other doods and look at chics to see who's looking at you! :up:
 

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Kerpal said:
The way I see it is, you can't change your height, so why worry about it? Why not spend that energy improving yourself in every other way?..
Way too much work involved in self improvement, plus you (logically) can't blame anyone when it doesn't pay off the very first time to try something. It's just easier to complain about things you have no control over in order to avoid any accountability. It's the AFC way! :up:
 

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Kerpal said:
Yeah, everyone except the guys who actually fight :crackup:
This is funny but untrue. I see and hang with more UFC/IFL people then anyone on this site hands down. They universally all wear fight gear, preferably their own, because they get royalties off of it. I like fight gear cause it's way cheaper then most of the collar shirts i own. I'd much rather have a drunken broad spill her cape cod on my 23 dollar contract killer t then my 60 dollar wrinkle free slate blue Van Huesen shirt. Dry cleaning is a hastle.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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There will always be someone taller, richer, better physique, better looking, has more game, whatever.

It's just an excuse.

Want to get better with girls? Go to clubs where your competition is tougher.

It will cause you to step up your game.

Or to complain and quit.

I'm 6' 1" and have lost girls to guys that were 5' 8" back in the day, before I had game, and it could still very well happen.

You can't do anything about your height, so quit crying about it and improve on things you can control, your attitude being one of them.
 

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Snowman23 said:
damn it's so hard to holler at girls when these buff ass tall guys are all around.

I don't care how much confidence I think I have, I'm good-looking and 5'8", and am dwarfed by these douches. I walk by girls and most don't even look at me, the ones that do just keep going. and it really sucks because I'm not bad looking.

it's such a huge hit to my ego. most of you are probly gonna say "oh quit being a pvssy, just approach them."

What, so I can get shot down?? rofl

As much as it pains me to say it.. and I mean PAINS me..

wutang is right.

end of discussion

You are right dude. I am 5 foot 8 and a half and good looking, successful, funny etc. It all counts for NOTHING. I have to work way harder than tall ugly dudes and I am sick of having to have 'game.' 'game' involves work and time and I don't have the energy anymore. Tall dudes barely need any game. Competing against tall dudes for a short guy is like running a marathon starting from 5km behind - you can win but eventually you run out of energy mentally and can't keep doing it week in week out

You should get yourself elevator shoes. I have never used them but will. Will get me to 5 foot 10/11 and will make a massive difference
 
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Oh my....all these experienced DJ's on here and nobody can help Snowman23 out? Well, my solution is simple, wear high heel boots or shoes and try spraying some stuff on if you have to.

a) This will increase your height because you are wearing high heels.

b) This will get attention and possibly make you look sexy, like you are not afraid of looking feminine because you are sure of your masculinity.

Practical advice and solutions for practical problems. You want to know how I know this? Because I've been lurking other boards, and I remember this is how one guy got his women in the old Involuntary Celibacy board and posted about it back in 2005-2006 and I still remember that post.

Try it out next time you go clubbing (and if you want go to a pheromone site such as http://www.pheromonetalk.com/ and spray some stuff on if you REALLY have to -- heck, maybe the other buff guys are spraying that stuff on and you don't know about it.
 

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The club scene is so fvcking shallow it doesn't even seem real...who cares? It's not about the other guys, it's about the girls. All these douches have a look on their faces like they want to start a fight with every guy they see....good thing you're short and off their radar.

Really man, let these insecure douchebags fight every guy they see...but while they're fighting, sweep in and take their women. Make no apologies. You're not there at the club to give a damn about the competition, you're there to find a drunk floozie to fvck 'till dawn.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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