I work two jobs, I have an online business. I go to the gym, try to eat right and cook my food. I have my daughter every other weekend. On my free weekends I'm either working on my business or sleeping. I may get out on friday night at most. I feel like I'm too busy for women these days. When I do meet a decent woman she complains that I don't have enough time for her. Anyone else with this same situation? How do you deal with it?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Too busy for women?
- Thread starter Warrior74
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Andy_Dufresne
Senior Don Juan
Find a woman who is as busy as you are.
To do this, you don't have to go "out" to find women. In fact, that is counterproductive. Think about it, if you meet a woman "out", say at a bar or a party, that means she has enough free time to go "out".
A better bet is to take your game up a level and start talking to women at the gym, grocery store etc. These are women that are inherently more busy and would want to progress more slowly in a relationship. Not only that, (considering you choose wisely) they are usually higher quality (professional, educated, etc.)
To do this, you don't have to go "out" to find women. In fact, that is counterproductive. Think about it, if you meet a woman "out", say at a bar or a party, that means she has enough free time to go "out".
A better bet is to take your game up a level and start talking to women at the gym, grocery store etc. These are women that are inherently more busy and would want to progress more slowly in a relationship. Not only that, (considering you choose wisely) they are usually higher quality (professional, educated, etc.)
wjh
Master Don Juan
I'm fairly busy these days. I have a new job with a new employer and I'm already working on a promotion. I barely see my friends but I'm working on another business I'm starting. I'm also busy trying to hit the gym when I can and taking care of all the other necessities of life like laundry, getting haircuts, washing my car, etc. Life is time consuming!
But there is a girl I date and sleep with once in a while. I care about her she's a great girl, but she's not exactly everything I've ever wanted. Other girls I've hooked up with randomly through the rare chance I can get out as well (recently).
I find that If I don't cold approach it's very difficult to get new women into my life. I just don't like cold approaching women that I would run into all the time (like the gym). I go to workout at my gym and don't want to taint my workouts and experience there with cold-approaching and having to run into girls who rejected me for whatever reason. Not to mention that I go to a muscle-head gym and the ratio of guys-to-girls is about 15:1.
If I was you I'd probably have to be even more aggressive with my cold-approaches as your time seems more constricted than mine. That would probably include the gym in my case.
Edit: Oh ya, the problem of a girl thinking you don't have enough time for her? Worry about that when you run into it. I'm sure you of all people would be able to handle that problem with ease (assuming it pops up).
But there is a girl I date and sleep with once in a while. I care about her she's a great girl, but she's not exactly everything I've ever wanted. Other girls I've hooked up with randomly through the rare chance I can get out as well (recently).
I find that If I don't cold approach it's very difficult to get new women into my life. I just don't like cold approaching women that I would run into all the time (like the gym). I go to workout at my gym and don't want to taint my workouts and experience there with cold-approaching and having to run into girls who rejected me for whatever reason. Not to mention that I go to a muscle-head gym and the ratio of guys-to-girls is about 15:1.
If I was you I'd probably have to be even more aggressive with my cold-approaches as your time seems more constricted than mine. That would probably include the gym in my case.
Edit: Oh ya, the problem of a girl thinking you don't have enough time for her? Worry about that when you run into it. I'm sure you of all people would be able to handle that problem with ease (assuming it pops up).
yah. at first its great, becuase its a challenge to them. Try to make me spend more time with them. When they see I don't have time to lay up at their crib all the time and I'm not going to blow up there phone 247 they start to loose interest.wjh said:
I guess in a few months when things settle down I'll get back in the game strong.
wjh
Master Don Juan
Is that really a problem though?Warrior74 said:
Don't you get some fun and sex out of it in the short term?
Or do you absolutely need a girlfriend?
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Just wish I had a bit more time for the recruitment process right now.Andy_Dufresne
Senior Don Juan
Gets my vote. Work on that, get some numbers just to keep things sharp. Does not have to go anywhere, really.wjh said: