Master Don Juan
- Sep 13, 2019
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- Southeast USA
In the Stone Age, before the internet and social media, a lot of young men(teens to maybe early 20s) sought older women, because younger women(teens through early 20s), many of them, hadn't sufficiently settled into their sexuality to be tolerable.In this country, you gotta make the money first. Then when you get the money, you get the power. Then when you get the power, then you get the women.
Few caveats to start with: Yes, looks are undeniably important for a lot of young women (18-21), particularly those who haven't graduated and have very little responsibility...still mentally children. IME once the reality of a that corporate job and city life set in, women priotise money A LOT more.
Secondly, I actually believe the illusion of wealth skews things a bit. For example a guy who appears to be doing well in life and having fun (partying, regular holidays, well dressed, nice car, etc.) will at the very least get positive attention from others - that's just the reality of the insta generation we live in. Wouldn't recommend this lifestyle if you can't afford it of course, just making a point.
This is what confuses people. When they think about women being attracted to money they imagine some dull grey suited accountant with zero social skills, making £100k a year trying to woefully seduce women half his age. I define having the kind of money that actually attracts women as FU money - freedom and most importantly FUN.
I've been a tad frustrated with the hotness quality of some of the chicks I've been attracting of late. I make pretty good money for my age and in a position to be able to travel frequently (atleast once a month) and party in some fairly pricey parts of my city. I'm not a huge fan of social media but one of my boys advised that I should start posting my activity so I did and it was like a night and day. The same girls who were turning me down for dates a few months ago are now hitting up my IG stories. I have dates lined up all next week.
The guys barking on about social circle/ social skills being the dominant means of consistently attracting women are just as dogmatic as the "Black Pill", "Looks are EVERYTHING" crowd. Both are wrong.
The girls who "prioritise dating men in their social circle" are the same ones who will drop everything to go home with footballers and trust fund babies living the good life on IG. Or you really think she's turning down a date with a guy making £100k a week because she had her eye on Dave from her yoga class? Come on. Social dominance only gets you so far and is entirely contextual to that specific environment.
But similiarly there are AVERAGE to below average looking men getting laid consistently because they are genuinely cool guys. If you don't believe this you need to get out into the real world or make better friends.
Social skills (Game is just one branch of wider social skills IMO) are more of an amplifier. Like, if you're really funny, confident and socially astute you might go from a 6 to an 8 if you're well known in that particular environment, but if an obvious 9 enters the picture Dave is SOL.
Having said that I do think Social Skills > Looks
"Black pillers" seem to forget that most good looking men generally have great social skills and game due to positive reinforcement and having dealt with women early on. They have a 10 year headstart on most posters on forums like this. Good-looking social retards rarely get laid.
This is why for me it's:
That's why I think it's funny to hear young guys talk about how tough things are, today, because, "thanks to the internet, women know game too." That's cracks me! Women have ALWAYS known game; they were taught it by their aunts and grandmothers and each other, almost since they could crawl. They just were often so embarrassingly clumsy and hamfisted at it, in HS especially, that they were almost unbearable to be around. That's why we usually gave them a few years to work out the kinks on their unfortunate learner boyfriends, before circling back around to them, a few years later, when they had outgrown sadistically tormenting hormonal teenage boys.
No. Girls were taught these things by closed networks. It's the internet that's new, the open source nature of things, where every 13 middle school dweeb is googling "game."
So, yeah, girls, historically, have exhausted their own amusement at the magical powers their biology gives them over boys who haven't yet learned to control their own biology, anywhere between the time they graduated from HS or college, traditionally. That's been one of their main attractions to "older men"(guy might 24), because he's no longer willing to be led around by his erections, like it's a divining rod, and is someone she can respect, just because he tells her, "NO," and means it. Guys can be pretty pathetic, sometimes.