Tom Leykis' rules VS the rest of DJs' ideas!

[j8snx1]

I just finished reading Tom Leykis' rules, and one thing I am confused about is:

"Men, never have coffee or lunch with a woman unless you want to be "friends". Women have dinner with the men that they bang, not lunch or coffee."

Tom Leykis, and other DJ's say the same thing above, but other DJ's say that I should start with something casual, like coffee or lunch to see if the girl is worth my time or not.

WHAT'S WITH THE AMBIVALENCE?! I feel a bit confused, since both answers are so contradicting.

Which one is recommended? Leykis' lunch idea, or the other DJ's ideas on using lunch to feel the target out?



PS: It wouldn't really matter where we go doesn't it? If the girl has high/good IL in me, then she wouldn't care where we go (up to a certain degree) as long as she gets to spend time with me. Correct?

 

[\O/]

I disagree with Tom Leykis on that one..

Having coffee or lunch is much less formal than having dinner with a new chick. It takes away alot of the pressure and is a great way to get to know eachother. If you take a girl out to dinner it really makes your intentions very obvious. Instead you should meet informally to let her qualify herself to you, to see if she is worthy for you to get to know better..

Don't "date", just arrange meetings....


Also, ambivalence and contradictions are to be found everywhere on this site. In the forum and in the bible as well. It can get very confusing, but you have to see what works for you and incorporate it into your own style.

 

[Boner da Stoner]

I do not generally trust a man who says never...

:cheer: has it right, taking a girl for coffee is cheaper and easier to bail out of... you can arrange for a coffee meeting and there is far more power in your hands than at a dinner... and more venues to see at the drop of a hat... a coffee meet can last minutes to hours...

Tom Leykis seems like tom bupkiss to me, he's got nothin in as far as I see

Who is the guy?

 

[j8snx1]

Hahaha hell if I knew who the heck he was, but one of the threads said that Tom guy was from a radio or something.

Nonetheless, who cares who he is? Probably a Bush-lover.

Thanks for your feedback guys, I appreciate it!:woo:

 

[FRëSHURE]

Heres the flaw.

Keyboard Jockeys and older guys will tell you

"coffee date, its cheap, its relaxed, its short (length of time)" etc. I'm sure you've heard it all before.

Here is the problem with it.

For me, and for many others like me.

I don't want the girl to qualify herself to me. I don't want to find out if she would make an exellent wife to me one day.

I want to see what she looks like with no clothes on and her legs over her ears.

Coffee doesn't help to put her in that pose.

I couldn't tell you the ideal 'date' to put her in that pose. But the thing which works best for me is "Hey, you should come over and watch a DVD."

She's in your bedroom.

On your bed.

Kino is easy.

Your in a comfortable environment.

Your in a private environment.

.... hell involve some drinking, and you can both lose your inhibitions.

 

[OneArmDeeJay]

Do Whatever You Want

Some people will tell you yes it’s ok others will say no it’s not ok.

Well guess what?

There are,

NO RULES!!

When it comes to dating.

Do whatever YOU want to do!

The Leykis rules and DJ rules are based off of experiences and past knowledge that has been combined and analyzed to come up with GUIDELINES for you to follow to help you be successful with women.

But remember everybody has a different agenda then the next guy. So just take every advice and dating rules with a grain of salt and then develop your own sense of style and rules even if you adapt different ones from different styles of teachings.