iHatePants
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is nothing getting through to you?
Ignore her completly! Don't even reply to her if she contacts you!
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Told AW with bf where to go!
- Thread starter PeterCrouch
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Ignore her completly! Don't even reply to her if she contacts you!
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
PeterCrouch
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alright calm down guys, im not gonna do that!
i know was stupid of me to think that!
anyway its been suggested that i dont talk to her anymore, only problem with that is shes from college, ill see her in september anyway and shes in a circle of friends, it would be difficult not to talk to her!
i know was stupid of me to think that!
anyway its been suggested that i dont talk to her anymore, only problem with that is shes from college, ill see her in september anyway and shes in a circle of friends, it would be difficult not to talk to her!
PeterCrouch
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I just wanna get her talking to me again, so i can be on talking terms with her atleast, if not anything else!
How would i do this without saying sorry?
How would i do this without saying sorry?
no you don't apologize. wtf for? you did nothing. it's her playing games with your head. just ease up like i told ya pete. short and sweet. keep yaself busy and meet other girls. if she wants something she'll let you know.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Not Quite There
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its july now, september is 6 weeks away.
even if you have to speak to her then, don't make any effort now.
you can just tell her straight when you see her that you couldn't be arsed with her flirting anymore.
even if you have to speak to her then, don't make any effort now.
you can just tell her straight when you see her that you couldn't be arsed with her flirting anymore.
PeterCrouch
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right so im not gonna contact her, but if we pass by or talk on msn, and she mentions last night what should i say "just that i couldnt be arsed with her flirting anymore?"
wanna still talk to her enough so that if she broke up with her bf maybe i could swoop in, but untill then im not gonna be bothered about her!
ta
wanna still talk to her enough so that if she broke up with her bf maybe i could swoop in, but untill then im not gonna be bothered about her!
ta
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
I am not going to flame you, because you are here, meaning you give a damn about yourself.
however, I will point out that you do need to read the DJ bible.
First, look at it this way... You are the one presisting on seeing her, and then when she tells you that you can come and see her, you get mad because she has a BF and tell her that you don't want to talk to her.
That's being a contridicton.
What makes you think she in an AW? Because she has a BF? Mabye she is just in a F'ed up relationship. Don't be soo quick to judge. I am not say ing she isn't, because I don't know her, but with that said, I don't think you do either.
If it's sex you want or a realtionship (which I wouldn't recommend), you have to work your way up. You aren't going to come in the game being on the same level as her BF. it's idiotic and unrealistic to think that... Considering how you played it, it's a gift you even got an offer to come over her place.
Now, if you play your cards right, show her you are interested but not infactuated, show her a good time, in other words, present her with a alternative option besides her BF, then you can get somewhere.
But you or anyone else, can't expect to talk to a girl with a BF, and then from jump street be on the same level as her current BF, it just doesn't work like that.
As far as how you played it, you aready messed up, she is already looking at you like "WTF? did I do wrong?". Just chalk it up to experience. If you see her, don't be mean. Be flirty and let her make the move in this case because as bad as you messed that up, it would only get worse if you called back apologizing.
however, I will point out that you do need to read the DJ bible.
First, look at it this way... You are the one presisting on seeing her, and then when she tells you that you can come and see her, you get mad because she has a BF and tell her that you don't want to talk to her.
That's being a contridicton.
What makes you think she in an AW? Because she has a BF? Mabye she is just in a F'ed up relationship. Don't be soo quick to judge. I am not say ing she isn't, because I don't know her, but with that said, I don't think you do either.
If it's sex you want or a realtionship (which I wouldn't recommend), you have to work your way up. You aren't going to come in the game being on the same level as her BF. it's idiotic and unrealistic to think that... Considering how you played it, it's a gift you even got an offer to come over her place.
Now, if you play your cards right, show her you are interested but not infactuated, show her a good time, in other words, present her with a alternative option besides her BF, then you can get somewhere.
But you or anyone else, can't expect to talk to a girl with a BF, and then from jump street be on the same level as her current BF, it just doesn't work like that.
As far as how you played it, you aready messed up, she is already looking at you like "WTF? did I do wrong?". Just chalk it up to experience. If you see her, don't be mean. Be flirty and let her make the move in this case because as bad as you messed that up, it would only get worse if you called back apologizing.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
PeterCrouch
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Why do you guys think she offered for me to come and see her?
Shes rejected me 3 times in the past (1st time she said it would be fun but she couldnt get there, 2nd time too hot and she needs money and 3rd time she said im working and i dont think my bf would be happy about me going to the cinema with you")
Her exact words last night were
"i need some ideas about what you want, ur not gonna be able to see it until september anyway, so ive got ages to make it"
so i asked why im not gonna be able to see it till september and she said
"bcoz im not gonna see you unless you come over here"
thats wen i said im not going that far to see a gal especialy one with a bf lol call me when you change your mind and are in town, untill then toodles x"
I then sent the msg about my bum an hour later
Is this recoverable? If she did mean it in a you can come and see me way, can i get her back to that place, coz i really like her!
ta
Shes rejected me 3 times in the past (1st time she said it would be fun but she couldnt get there, 2nd time too hot and she needs money and 3rd time she said im working and i dont think my bf would be happy about me going to the cinema with you")
Her exact words last night were
"i need some ideas about what you want, ur not gonna be able to see it until september anyway, so ive got ages to make it"
so i asked why im not gonna be able to see it till september and she said
"bcoz im not gonna see you unless you come over here"
thats wen i said im not going that far to see a gal especialy one with a bf lol call me when you change your mind and are in town, untill then toodles x"
I then sent the msg about my bum an hour later
Is this recoverable? If she did mean it in a you can come and see me way, can i get her back to that place, coz i really like her!
ta
PeterCrouch
U need to get something in ur life fast....the biggest isssue of all is this one person ur hunting down, but shes shottin ya rite back..................
Read the book and go after other women. Sounds to me ur incapable of talking to women.....plz read that bible.
U need to get something in ur life fast....the biggest isssue of all is this one person ur hunting down, but shes shottin ya rite back..................
Read the book and go after other women. Sounds to me ur incapable of talking to women.....plz read that bible.
PeterCrouch
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So what would ya suggest big mike?
If i speak to her about it im just gonna say "i was messing about and i took your messages to seriously and the wrong way"
is this ok?
Then be myself again, coz tbh before this i was doing ok with her, being ****y and funny, altho she wasnt too intrested i did feel i could get her intrested if she broke up with her bf, but now i feel differently! but i feel i can recover it!
If i speak to her about it im just gonna say "i was messing about and i took your messages to seriously and the wrong way"
is this ok?
Then be myself again, coz tbh before this i was doing ok with her, being ****y and funny, altho she wasnt too intrested i did feel i could get her intrested if she broke up with her bf, but now i feel differently! but i feel i can recover it!
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
MetalFortress
Master Don Juan
STOP SAYING "tootles x"
IT MAKES YOU SOUND LIKE A GIRL
IT MAKES YOU SOUND LIKE A GIRL
darth yoda
Don Juan
Pete, get a grip!
Ignore her completely, read bible, find other women...
Be around in September, this thread will be.
Ignore her completely, read bible, find other women...
Be around in September, this thread will be.
PeterCrouch
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**** sake man, if your gonna take the piss out of it then at least get it right its Toodles!
Its not girly at all! FACT!
Its the greatest word ever! FACT
And Ill continue to use it FACT
Toodles xxx
oh god proof that all AW say and do the same things, when you back them against the wall or confront them in anyway they are the first to snap and say don't talk to me or some varation of that.
then they are also the quickest to accept an appology, way to forgiving.
then they are also the quickest to accept an appology, way to forgiving.