Lost In Translation
Master Don Juan
and then ? *in chinese drive-thru box voice*
aaaaaaand then ?
aaaaaaand then ?
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
together or not???
- Thread starter gargamel
- Start date
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Then we went to my place.. met a strange guy TWICE on our way there, he was dressed like an idiot, but had the cutest rat in his jacket. She was grossed by the mere appearance of that guy, but I started talkin to him, just to discover he's actually a very cool guy... things aint always what they seem, right? She was VERY impressed.. Used the guy for a vechicle for a half-hour stand up comedy show.. OMG, she was laughing histerically, by the end of the "show" she couldn't breathe and her face got RED! I just said: ok, don't die on me now.. I ain't in a mood for finding a new plaything right now.. she chuckled and gave me a punch on the shoulder.. "Oh, stop it.." [blush + moved closer to me]
finally, I took control over the game..
@ my place.. we hung out, a friend of mine came by, then two of my sisters came.. never did things go better.. we had a lot of phun and I had the opportunity to show what a great host I am.. we all really had a great time..
when ppl cleared out, I sat next to her, and she just leaned on me. I put my arm around her, still talking the thing I was talking about.. she didn't pay attention to what I was sayin, she was just looking at me like, "stop talking and kiss me, you idiot!", but I just looked her in the eyes and continued talking.. then she kissed me.. I mad a pause, closed my eyes, embracing the moment.. and then continued talking, as if nothing happened.. she smiled and then she went crazy and literally attacked me! so we made out.. the whole night..
as the whole game escalated I got her only half naked. She wouldn't let me take her pants of... uh-uh, no way! She even got frisky and slapped me once in a playful manner.. so I quit trying after several turn-downs.. She kinda gave me the "not just yet" look.. I was so tired at the moment, but I did make the most of what I got.. she was surprisingly amasing.. we clicked, finally! And it ckicked well, I tell you that much!
finally, I took control over the game..
@ my place.. we hung out, a friend of mine came by, then two of my sisters came.. never did things go better.. we had a lot of phun and I had the opportunity to show what a great host I am.. we all really had a great time..
when ppl cleared out, I sat next to her, and she just leaned on me. I put my arm around her, still talking the thing I was talking about.. she didn't pay attention to what I was sayin, she was just looking at me like, "stop talking and kiss me, you idiot!", but I just looked her in the eyes and continued talking.. then she kissed me.. I mad a pause, closed my eyes, embracing the moment.. and then continued talking, as if nothing happened.. she smiled and then she went crazy and literally attacked me! so we made out.. the whole night..
as the whole game escalated I got her only half naked. She wouldn't let me take her pants of... uh-uh, no way! She even got frisky and slapped me once in a playful manner.. so I quit trying after several turn-downs.. She kinda gave me the "not just yet" look.. I was so tired at the moment, but I did make the most of what I got.. she was surprisingly amasing.. we clicked, finally! And it ckicked well, I tell you that much!
just have to thank you guys. Talking about it with ppl who have an idea about DJing sure made me deliver everything with more confidence. It's all about the mindset! If you predetermine what you THINK will happen, than you subconsciously influence it that way - so IT tends to GO that way!
“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”
You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.
I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.
Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.
These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.
Lost In Translation
Master Don Juan
you did great gargamel :cheer:
for future reference
she was just looking at me like, "stop talking and kiss me, you idiot!"
thats when you are supposed to kiss her
you are very lucky she attacked you
in future show her you are a REAL MAN and make the move to kiss her when that moment comes up again
Lost In Translation
**AUSTRALIAN STREET PIMP**
for future reference
she was just looking at me like, "stop talking and kiss me, you idiot!"
thats when you are supposed to kiss her
you are very lucky she attacked you
in future show her you are a REAL MAN and make the move to kiss her when that moment comes up again
Lost In Translation
**AUSTRALIAN STREET PIMP**
yea, it did go well, but the most important thing is that I felt really great!
yeah, I know! normally wouldn't do that, but I just felt like teasing her and it fit perfectly into the moment
yeah, I know!
normally wouldn't do that, but I just felt like teasing her and it fit perfectly into the momentDo you make summaries when feeling such euforia and are in a hurry? do you? DO YOU?
PuertoRican_Lover
Banned
I would say "good job" but you weren't the initiator!
I guess she needed to show you how it's done - don't wait for her to initiate next time!
If you feel this good over a kiss - what will happen when/if you have sex? You'll probably explode!
Are you a stand-up comedian?
I guess she needed to show you how it's done - don't wait for her to initiate next time!
If you feel this good over a kiss - what will happen when/if you have sex? You'll probably explode!
Are you a stand-up comedian?
Don Juanabbe
Master Don Juan
I think I speak for everyone, Gargamel, when I say, "YOU ARE A *****!!"
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Nah, she aint a 10 by "normal guys international standards"... She's more like 8,5... possible candidate for 9... but to me, she's the sweetest thing in the world... I told you, she got me wrapped up.. I just feel great cause things worked out, even tho I thought they wouldn't... I sure HOPE I explode after/if having sex with her, cause I had a lot of meaningless sex lately.. not good karma!
OK, I was kidding for that DO YOU!? thing.. stop being so freakin serious, man.. will make my posts shorter in future
No, I aint a stand-up comedian.. yet...
OK, I was kidding for that DO YOU!? thing.. stop being so freakin serious, man..
will make my posts shorter in future ??? there's a lot of five-letter words, you know..
No, I aint a stand-up comedian.. yet...
Follow up
OK, we are officially DATING. I'm actually finding out she's even better than I expected. She even met my family, and was very cool about it, all the pieces started fitting in naturally.
Can anyone tell me of a good place to find out how to KEEP a girl after getting her Cause I'm kinda falling apart (again).
She slept over a few times.. We had a lot of topless action, but every time I tried taking off her pants, she got defensive.. told me he'd do it next time at her place.. And even got VERY ANGRY the last time. Note to self: NO SOMETIMES REALLY MEANS NO!!! I almost fvck3d it all up, but we talked it out..
OK, the problem is - I find myself in a lot of situations where DJ rules do not apply.. Cause I feel it could push her away. Now I'm in a mood to do some crazy-romantic stuff to show her I really care (cause she completely opened up to me, and I feel like I'm not acting in harmony with myself when I don't return the attention) but I'm barely holding myself down.
Now that she's "mine" I feel like doing some affectionate stuff that aren't quite in harmony with the game. I think "the game" is over and I can start being completely honest with her.
Am I wrong?
How long does the game last?
OK, we are officially DATING. I'm actually finding out she's even better than I expected. She even met my family, and was very cool about it, all the pieces started fitting in naturally.
Can anyone tell me of a good place to find out how to KEEP a girl after getting her
Cause I'm kinda falling apart (again). She slept over a few times.. We had a lot of topless action, but every time I tried taking off her pants, she got defensive.. told me he'd do it next time at her place.. And even got VERY ANGRY the last time. Note to self: NO SOMETIMES REALLY MEANS NO!!! I almost fvck3d it all up, but we talked it out..
OK, the problem is - I find myself in a lot of situations where DJ rules do not apply.. Cause I feel it could push her away. Now I'm in a mood to do some crazy-romantic stuff to show her I really care (cause she completely opened up to me, and I feel like I'm not acting in harmony with myself when I don't return the attention) but I'm barely holding myself down.
Now that she's "mine" I feel like doing some affectionate stuff that aren't quite in harmony with the game. I think "the game" is over and I can start being completely honest with her.
Am I wrong?
How long does the game last?
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
PuertoRican_Lover
Banned
Here is the secret - it is not about being a DJ or playing games - it is about following your nature as a man!! you like women, right??
Don't think you have to do something special now because you "got" her!!
Why is she attracted to you?? Do you know? Is it mostly your looks, or is it your humor, economical status, or your massages??
Don't force a woman to have sex - it never works (except in DJ Reed247 case). But then again if she takes her clothes off then what the hell is a man suppose to do - give her a massage? Oh yeah, that is what you do!
Don't give her any more massages!!!! I think you are trying to please her way too much - stop acting as if you have to do something to please her - the question is - what is SHE doing for you???
Don't try to impress her!!
She likes you for a reason so don't change what you are doing but don't get too wrapped in her beauty - look at her character and what SHE does for YOU!!
Remember, she is qualifying herself to you!!
She wants you because you are a man - this is not rocket science!!!
Have YOU gotten a massage yet?? Stop the massages and be in control - don't let her control you by taking her clothes off and you automatically become her servant - she knows this!!
Initiate! Initiate!
Men lead and women follow - thisi s the natural order of things!!
Don't think you have to do something special now because you "got" her!!
Why is she attracted to you?? Do you know? Is it mostly your looks, or is it your humor, economical status, or your massages??
Don't force a woman to have sex - it never works (except in DJ Reed247 case). But then again if she takes her clothes off then what the hell is a man suppose to do - give her a massage? Oh yeah, that is what you do!
Don't give her any more massages!!!! I think you are trying to please her way too much - stop acting as if you have to do something to please her - the question is - what is SHE doing for you???
Don't try to impress her!!
She likes you for a reason so don't change what you are doing but don't get too wrapped in her beauty - look at her character and what SHE does for YOU!!
Remember, she is qualifying herself to you!!
She wants you because you are a man - this is not rocket science!!!
Have YOU gotten a massage yet?? Stop the massages and be in control - don't let her control you by taking her clothes off and you automatically become her servant - she knows this!!
Initiate! Initiate!
Men lead and women follow - thisi s the natural order of things!!
Glad to hear that things are going in a good direction!
Don't stress so much now that you are dating. Be relaxed about it; you don't have to worry about proving yourself or wooing her with wild romance, because she already likes what she has seen. You are in a pretty early dating stage here, so make sure not to overdo it! Even though you want to, hanging out with her 24/7 is something you have to forgoe. You still gotta keep your life away from her, because if she senses that she is becoming the focus that will not be good.
Just think about it like this: you just added another part to your life, but all the other parts that were there already need attention too! Its very easy to get all wrapped up in a girl, but then you give up parts of yourself and scare the girl off at the same time!
Don't stress so much now that you are dating. Be relaxed about it; you don't have to worry about proving yourself or wooing her with wild romance, because she already likes what she has seen. You are in a pretty early dating stage here, so make sure not to overdo it! Even though you want to, hanging out with her 24/7 is something you have to forgoe. You still gotta keep your life away from her, because if she senses that she is becoming the focus that will not be good.
Just think about it like this: you just added another part to your life, but all the other parts that were there already need attention too! Its very easy to get all wrapped up in a girl, but then you give up parts of yourself and scare the girl off at the same time!
PuertoRican_Lover
Banned
DJ Gargantuan, progress report!
tmpgstx
Master Don Juan
Sounded like some dam cheap romance novel! She is not LTR material, so put your plug in her socket! Why? Because girlz like this are fleeting, and only to the next pimp in line!
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.