"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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To The NON Drinkers...

SteveTheDon

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How do you meet girls if you dont drink? Im 11 days sober today and been going to AA etc.. Im finally over my oneitis breakup and becoming a DON slowly..my question is how do you pick up women if you dont drink? Also Im talking to a chick on POF that invited me to stay the night with her.. Now I met 3 girls off that site and am 3 for 3 (fvcking em) however it was easy, wed meet, rent a room or go to their place and get drunk and Id become confident and witty and score.. wondering what to do if say she offers a drink or just trying to not want to drink since its a easy icebreaker etc.. any tips?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The Bad Ass Canadian

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I'm in the same boat as you, except I'm 2 months sober. Just do as you're doing and if she offers a drink just politely say no thanx, I don't drink and leave it at that.

In all honesty, you might want to get some more time behind you as a sober man before you really start thinking about women. The first month (if you were a heavy drinker like I was) is a total readjustment period. Even now, at the 2 month mark and I'm just moving out of my infancy as a recovering alcoholic.

You can be everything you have to be, sober, to be successful with women. Drinking is a cop out for guys with little testicles because doing some of this stuff sober would make them horribly uncomfortable.

Wouldn't you be a better man if you could pull this all off in a natural, normal state?
 

SamTheHobit

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everything in moderation. don't drink during the week. only drink on the weekends.
 

Jariel

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I agree with The Bad Ass Canadian. I don't drink and haven't for several years. The problem is too many people depend on alcohol for a confidence boost because they're lacking genuine confidence. I struggled with this myself for a long time until I reached a point of genuine confidence.

I reached that point by taking risks, making mistakes and experiencing rejection first hand. Sure it stings at times, but you develop an immunity to it after a while and stop caring. It's an amazing sense of freedom when you can just be yourself, go for what you want and not need any alcohol or drugs to cope.

Just accept that it takes time and pushing yourself beyond the boundaries of your comfort zone. And just remember, every rejection and bad experience you have is a lesson and another step in toughening you up and building your confidence.
 

Jariel

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SamTheHobit said:
everything in moderation. don't drink during the week. only drink on the weekends.
Unfortunately this doesn't work for recovering alcoholics. As with any addiction (from smoking to heroin to simply bad eating habits) if the substance is in your system, you will continue to crave it. The only way to beat it is to flush it out completely.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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backbreaker

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i have 6 and a half years clean (crack cocaine) and was I am a former friend of bill myself. first congrats on the clean time first and foremost keep up the good work and if you ever need any help in that regard pm me, be happy to talk to you.

with that said, if you are going to aa meetings and you are complaining about not being able to find dates yourdoingitwrong.gif

I am not your sponsor, if your sponsor says it's okay to date, go ahead. if he doesn't say it's okay to date don't. you need to listen to your sponsor on this, they know you and if they think it can be an issue you need to do what they say.

but there is so much ass inside the rooms, especially once you get your **** together, man finding women should be the least if your problems if you are doing what you supposed to do.

everything in moderation. don't drink during the week. only drink on the weekends.
lol, addiction is not a lifestyle choice man. if they could drink in moderation they wouldn't be addicts now would they. one is too many and a thousand is never enough. once you take the first one it's a wrap jack.

You can be everything you have to be, sober, to be successful with women. Drinking is a cop out for guys with little testicles because doing some of this stuff sober would make them horribly uncomfortable.
exactly. now i do drink now, drinking never was my thing anyway, but i drink in moderation, always have been. it's just that damn pipe that gets me. but when i was in AA, for 4 years, li gave up drinking 100% and had no problem doing so. if you HAVE to get plastered to talk to women, you have no game. and if she thinks you are "weird" because you don't drink, then that's someone you don't want anyway.
 
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