"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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How many people on this site are good looking and still had trouble with girls?

Im either an 8 or 9 on the scale of looks and i had trouble gettin girls with just my afc personality. For all those noobies out there worried about looks ill tell you looks do have the advantage of getttin the girl interested easier, but they dont mean anything if you dont have game to back it up.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Vanity is not a big deal with me. Your personality and attitude are key.
 

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The thing with looks is that once you have them you should feel confident, and confidence is what gets girls.
 

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im just going to say this just to get it out of the way, looks do matter, period. no matter what anyone syas they do matter
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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90% of people, when asked to rate themselves appearance-wise, claim to be at least an 8.

What percentage of people would YOU say are at least an 8? We all think we look better than we really do, but does that really matter?
 

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SamMalone said:
90% of people, when asked to rate themselves appearance-wise, claim to be at least an 8.

What percentage of people would YOU say are at least an 8? We all think we look better than we really do, but does that really matter?
I'm more of an 80.
 

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The thing with looks is that once you have them you should feel confident, and confidence is what gets girls.
SamMalone said:
90% of people, when asked to rate themselves appearance-wise, claim to be at least an 8.

What percentage of people would YOU say are at least an 8? We all think we look better than we really do, but does that really matter?
Exactly!:up:


Nzo:

I believe your thread is quite childish to begin with, in other words it's pretty AFC.
But just for the sake of argument, if you want to have any credibility on the conclusion you draw (looks mean sh*t), at least prove to us that your facts are straight.
Always post a pic of yourself when you claim to be good looking, most people who do that put it in their profile. Just something to consider if you want to have any credibility on this thread...:rolleyes:
 

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Looks matter a little because attraction is based on value. Good looks = value.
That doesnt mean that good looks are the only way you attract women, hell no.

I have a friend who is the asian ( pakistani ) version of Will Smith ( no joke! ). Tall dark and devastatingly handsome. Yet when we go out, he doesnt get ANY play what so ever. I'll repeat, NO PLAY WHAT SO EVER. Sure, girls look at him and he is unaware of that but he doesnt not have an attractive attitude/personality. He doesnt have a clue. I learned first hand that looks dont mean shyt. He is far better looking than me, taller broader and has the chiseled features but when ever we are in the presence of Hbs or when we go out, i will make out with them, #close them, talk to them etc etc. He hangs around with frends, stands against the wall , or sits down.

Attitude!! attitude, inner beliefs and personality.
 

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I have to agree with the original poster. I'm a good looking guy, I get smiles and eyes from almost EVERY girl, but it's true confidence that women are attracted to in the end.

Sure i've had my confidence issues (mainly before I found this site) but I will say that having good looks doesn't boost confidence.

I've had these looks my whole life. Maybe if I went from being a fat ugly kid to being an athletic stud, then it would be different, because I could actually SEE the change.

Any ladies out there want to back me up here, here's my myspace page:

T Money

Looks help at first, but it's personality and confidence in the end that matter.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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whatever, don't play that sh!t off like you didn't mean it. :rolleyes:

If you were drunk, that means it's a deep rooted issue.
 

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At least he can admit that he has an AFC personality that (hopefully) he is working to change. He's recognized his problem which is one of the hardest steps. Read a little more then go out and change.
 

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The "Read a little more" was directed at the first poster, not you btw. I didn't know if you misunderstood because I worded if poorly.

You were right that his insecurity over his looks IS a deep rooted issue. But really, who is secure over their looks 100% of the time? Even the best looking people have moments that they feel unattractive, if they're not the ones obsessed about it. I personally am insecure over my looks sometimes. I don't think it's something that someone can get rid of 100% but it can be worked on.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I have a good 3 girls in my stable right now let me tell you from the start, I know what's up. Everything is action mang.

Looks matter and only a delusional idiot thinks different. The only way you're not getting any if you have an 8, 9, or 10 on looks is if you're not leaving your house or you're just not making any physical action.

I know what I'm talking about. If you don't believe me and if you really want me to I'll send you my myspace account and prove it.
Coming down to it I'm just trying to help you out. :yes:
 

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LOL. Wrong again deus. I garuntee if you had all those personality flaws and DIDNT look good, you wouldn t have even had those few sex buddies you did enjoy. Atleast be honest with youreslf. Looks don t matter? LOL what a joke!
 

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Ok, ok, i think every agrees that looks matter, but to WHAT EXTENT that they matter is a hot issue I've thought about for some time now. I believe It's like this, if a women sees a hot guy, Yes, she wants to FUK him. Point Blank.

Imagine that your looks are a car (thanx Dues) and your personality is the carsalesman. You walk up to the lot(club) and you see a Lexus and Camry. I don't care who you are, you're going to WANT the Lexus. So you talk to the carsalesman next to the Lexus and he's all timid and afraid to talk about it. That Lexus starts to look a little less appetizing

You might be little iffy, but suddenly the Camry car guy shows up with that confident smile and you can tell the by his demeanor he's confident with what's under the hood.

Suddenly you've got a much harder choice.
Now, women are controlled by their emotions(pimpin 101) so it's not hard to imagine that a good salesman can keep selling that camry like it was an Acura.

:):Thank You: )
 

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You are NOT an 8. You are NOT a 9, or a 10. There is NO universal number that you are. Lets say you rate yourself a 9...that's one person that has rated you a 9 out of six and a half billion. Some people think Tom Cruise is ugly. Some people think Brad Pitt is ugly. A lot of people are going to think you are ugly. But a lot of people are going to think you're cute. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and "ranking" yourself with a number is pointless.
 

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muttley said:
Looks matter a little because attraction is based on value. Good looks = value.
That doesnt mean that good looks are the only way you attract women, hell no.

I have a friend who is the asian ( pakistani ) version of Will Smith ( no joke! ). Tall dark and devastatingly handsome. Yet when we go out, he doesnt get ANY play what so ever. I'll repeat, NO PLAY WHAT SO EVER. Sure, girls look at him and he is unaware of that but he doesnt not have an attractive attitude/personality. He doesnt have a clue. I learned first hand that looks dont mean shyt. He is far better looking than me, taller broader and has the chiseled features but when ever we are in the presence of Hbs or when we go out, i will make out with them, #close them, talk to them etc etc. He hangs around with frends, stands against the wall , or sits down.

Attitude!! attitude, inner beliefs and personality.

Maybe that's just his personality. You don't have to be some extroverted, socialite to have a good personality or confidence.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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