"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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To Rent On My Own Or Move In With GF

Metaphysical

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So I'm 23 - had 50+ girls already. Found a girl I feel a good connection with.

I make 80k/year but in NYC - that's peanuts.

A small 1 bedroom condo is 2k a month. I could pay that off by myself, or split the rent with my gf which would make it much more manageable.

Any advice?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Alle_Gory

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Metaphysical said:
Any advice?
Make sure that worst case scenario you can kick her out and you can still pay rent. Also don't put her name on the lease so if you do kick her out, she doesn't have claim.

Make sure you can't get burned.
 

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do not move with a girl you do not intend to marry in the very near future

turst me on this one. the 1k a month difference is not worth it in the long run. get your own place for now
 

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backbreaker said:
do not move with a girl you do not intend to marry in the very near future

turst me on this one. the 1k a month difference is not worth it in the long run. get your own place for now
+1 on this.
 

ProDJ26

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EFFORT said:
+1 on this.
+1000 on this as well with that kind of money you'd be a fvcking fool to move in with a girl. And for what half rent & free pvssy? Fvck that bro hold your dignity get YOUR OWN place. Trust me eventually they will LEAVE or you'll want them to
I did this mistake twice
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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It's not worth it. Her shoes will take up the whole fvcking closet and your bathroom will have that faintly permanent 'period blood' smell.

But like Alle_Gory says, move in with her for the hell of it and learn what it's really like to live with a woman. Learn what a pain in the ass it is first-hand. But yeah, don't put her name on 5hit so you can kick her and her shoes out when you're sick of her.
 

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Just don't do it. It will be a painful experience which could be an expensive experience if not played right.

Side note I do not envy the cost of living in NY at all. Though it's mostly because of the depressed market out here, you can rent a 3 bed 2.5 bath with two car garage for 1k. 2.5k can get you a 5 bed 3.5 bath 3 story home with an elevator. I could see moving a girl in there. If you get pissed at her, the other room is in another zipcode.
 

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I'm actually glad I played house with my guwlfwend when I was 21-22 so I could get that **** out of my system at a young age.

Their p!ss smells really bad.

It's not that I would absolutely never consider doing it again, but it's definitely not something I'm ever going to wonder if I'm "missing out" on, and thus make another bonehead move, like play house with the wrong chick again.
 

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Metaphysical said:
So I'm 23 - had 50+ girls already. Found a girl I feel a good connection with.

I make 80k/year but in NYC - that's peanuts.

A small 1 bedroom condo is 2k a month. I could pay that off by myself, or split the rent with my gf which would make it much more manageable.

Any advice?
Friend just broke up with his girlfriend of 3 years. They live together. Every night sucks for him lol.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Alle_Gory

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Social_Leper said:
Huh? Isn't one of the goals of this site to learn from the more experienced members so we aren't doomed to repeat the same mistakes.
Yeah but does anyone do that? No they have to get burned a few times before they understand why. I say go for it.
 

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Take the term of the lease, subtract about three months, maybe six if you're more optimistic, and that's the number of months in hell that you risk. If you could get a month-to-month or at least a short term lease, it all might not end quite as painfully.
 
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