To objectify or not to objectify - that is the question.

[Berom]

Forgive my lack of understanding on this specific subject as I am still unplugging, building a foundation for my new paradigm.

I've seen plenty of threads/posts stating things such as,
"Objectify her."
"Women should compliment a man's life, not be the focus of it."
"Women are weaker/lower."
"Do what you want to do and that alone."
"Men take what they want and when they want it."
etc. etc.

Now at first thought, literally thinking of women being 'lower' than man seems to go against everything I've learned about equality and fairness. But then again, we all know about how the female imperative has effected society the past couple centuries.

However, when I focus more deeply about the concept of women being lower and only being her for pleasure/entertainment --- it actually makes me feel significantly more confident around women in regards to my actions, words, and intentions with that particular woman. It also makes me feel less dependent on getting pvssy to feel validated (something I would do a lot as an AFC).

The question --- Does the mindset of seeing women as objects, simply here for men's pleasure and entertainment, help you as a DJ?

I'd appreciate input from Don Juans who have experience with this first hand and not those who just have 'an opinion' about it.

Thanks fellas.

 

[CuddleJunkie]

Not what you are asking for, but in my experience with philosophy relativism is true. There is not lower or upper systems or races, or societies or whatever. But this leads us to the question about what is better for us. It's not about males being more rational or whatever, or about Occident being more developed. There is not a jerarchy of values, its all relative.
But then, why do we have to worry about others' values, or about other societies? We lost the world where our traditions and ways were the correct ones, now there are a lot of ways of living to choose. But at the same time, we are free now to look for ourselves, for what is better for us.

 

[HeadLightsOn]

The question --- Does the mindset of seeing women as objects, simply here for men's pleasure and entertainment, help you as a DJ?

Yes. I objectify women all the time. I may be sexist, Im not sure. Anyhoo, I started dating an HB7 recently. This is what I told her on the 2nd date and the exchange we had probably answers your question better than I can:

I said - "I want to be upfront with you. I look at you as an object of desire. I look at you as a sexual object, one which can give me pleasure. That attitude I have wont change, unless I decide to change it due to your behaviour, appearance or other issue. Tell me what you think if you like."

She said - "I see. No one has ever said that to me before. I may have to think on it, but I can say it makes me feel excited."

I said - " Excited and owned possibly?"

She said - "Yes."

Ill carry on.

 

[NSX-R]

If you don't want to be involved into stupid feelings that makes you a mess after some time, imo objectifying them is the only answer. If you see some potential in her and you want something more than the sexual part , I would allow feelings get into the mixture but always keeping my cool.

 

[Berom]

Yes. I objectify women all the time. I may be sexist

I looked up the definition to sexism ---
1. attitudes or behavior based on traditional stereotypes of gender roles.
2. ingrained and institutionalized prejudice against or hatred of women; misogyny.

Now, to me, the first definition doesn't seem sexist, especially when you think in terms of the effect the female imperative has had on society. The 2nd, however, does.
I think many women wouldn't like you to be that outright with them @HeadLightsOn but some seem to I like your mindset.

If you don't want to be involved into stupid feelings that makes you a mess after some time, imo objectifying them is the only answer. If you see some potential in her and you want something more than the sexual part , I would allow feelings get into the mixture but always keeping my cool.

I like this. Let them prove to you that they are more than good looks and have a pvssy. If they can't, then why give them gifts, time, compliments, or god forbid exclusivity?

 

[Stugots26]

In today's society, feminists try their hardest to equate sexism with misogyny as part of their campaign, but misogyny and sexism are not the same thing and never will be. I'm unapologetically sexist because I can distinguish between men and women. That in and of itself does not make me a mysogynist.