Hello Friend,

If this is your first visit to SoSuave, I would advise you to START HERE.

It will be the most efficient use of your time.

And you will learn everything you need to know to become a huge success with women.

Thank you for visiting and have a great day!

To master game, the old wimpy "YOU" needs to move out of the way.

CJ 101

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I recently joined SoSuave.com but I've been in the game for four years now, when i first heard about The Venusian arts, guys were always discussing which technique worked and which one didn't or which seduction guru was good and who wasn't, I've seen guys spend thousands of dollars on bootcamps endorsed by "gurus" who claim that they can turn you into a full fledged don juan overnight, now i can't say anything about that. But today i want us to look at what it really takes to master game, when i first started studying seduction i read alot of books as would be expected..I read books like The Layguide, How to become an alpha male, The plan,The mystery method, Magic bullets, the art of mackin', the mack within, The natural art of seduction, The art of seduction and alot of other books that i have with me, I also read books on NLP and Hypnosis and all of these books helped alot but i still did not get the results i was expecting.....I dated decent looking chicks and still made the same mistakes i had made before I heard about the game, when it came to picking up chicks in general i would know exactly what to do theoratically in a seduction situation but always give in to my AFC mannerisms when faced with a chick who's a stunner, I wondered, is this what seduction's really about ? because I had improved but i wasn't where i really wanted to be..... reading books on seduction's good and it's a definite MUST but there must be something more also,it wasn't until i realized that the "OLD ME" with all of my AFC habits and mannerisms had to die and by that i mean that i had to get rid of the old me,while studying NLP I learnt about MODELING which is basically finding someone who's accomplished what you want to accomplish and then acting like that person,I started watching mvies like Hitch, I was really fascinated with James Bond ( Daniel Craig), Fight Club and by doing this I got rid of bad posture and alot of other AFC habits that i had, my biggest inspiration came from watching NIP TUCK and there was one character i took note of, he's Dr Christian Troy (Julian Mcmahon) and i watched the way he behaved around beautiful women and that helped turn me into the person i am today, I currently live in Chicago, I recently broke up with my girlfriend but i'm completely cool with that, just last week i went out and i hooked up with two philipino chicks at a club in Chicago and we had a threesome, I've ****ed eighty six chicks to date, had a foursome last year September with three girls i picked up at a club in Chicago, I've fingered and made out with a couple of chicks in clubs in the Chicago area, I ****ed the most beautiful chick i had seen at that time even though she was engaged (she's married now), i've learn't how to escalate fast and I HAVE gotten a couple of chicks to bed the same night rather than after a couple of dates, I won't lie sometimes escalating fast works and sometimes it doesn't but i can gaurantee a kiss close or make-out any night i go out, now how did i get this point in my life, it's not really because i'm some sort of master pick up artist and it's definitely not because i'm special, I'M JUST A GUY WHO DECIDED TO LET GO OF HIS OLD AFC SELF, **** the old wimpy mannerisms i used to have, The old me died and it's IN with the NEW me..........That's all there is to this lifestyle, it's DEATH TO THE OLD SELF.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

Alex DeLarge

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How does one go about killing their old self? I'm in the same boat that you were in when talking about being able to pick up girls, but always falling vicitim to old AFC routines..

I really need to learn to kill my old AFC self and move on.
 

Atom Smasher

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Break it into paragraphs and I will read it. Come on, man, just look at that mess. Why make people work so hard when you're trying to communicate an idea?
 

Aaron B

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Alex DeLarge said:
How does one go about killing their old self? I'm in the same boat that you were in when talking about being able to pick up girls, but always falling vicitim to old AFC routines..

I really need to learn to kill my old AFC self and move on.
it's a battle you fight with yourself
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

CJ 101

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Killling one's old self is a battle that you fight with yourself and it will always be like that, what worked and still works for me is going out alot on weekends and desensitizing myself against fear by approaching and starting conversations with females that tend to intimidate alot of guys, I talk to beautiful chicks at the mall, when i'm out getting coffee at Starbucks, when i'm out clubbing or just wherever i see a beautiful female and i feel like approaching her.

This also has alot to do with coming out of your comfort zone. When it comes to mastering the game i think as a man you should know exactly what's stopping you from being successful women, for me it was:

1) I put beautiful women on a pedestal and i basically believed that i'd
have to be extremely good looking or rich in order to have them.

2) I was very self concious and just plain shy.

3) I always used to take other people's opinions about me to heart, which
resulted in me being afraid to approach chicks because i'd think that
people were watching and judging me.

So what changed all of this ? I read seduction material,internalized it, applied alot of what i read AND I STARTED NOT TO GIVE A ****.....That's it.
 

Vice

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Atom Smasher said:
Break it into paragraphs and I will read it. Come on, man, just look at that mess. Why make people work so hard when you're trying to communicate an idea?
I'm thinking about creating a sticky with a few points to follow to avoid these things and more (like asking questions here). If people still don't follow the guidelines I think threads should have moderator approval before being posted.

I hate it when someone has something wise to share but isn't considerate enough to format it in a way that's easy to read and digest.

You want to focus your brain power on learning the material, not mentally breaking apart paragraphs.
 

Vice

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CJ 101 said:
Sorry guys, I'll do better next time.
The material is good, just break it down in paragraphs so it's easier to read.
 
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