"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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to laugh it off or to call her out

princesimba

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something ive been thinking about

What is that line between laughing it off or to call her sh!t out when a woman disrespects you? And what message will it send to the woman?

Example: a girl you've been going out with for barely a few weeks starts ignoring you and flirts with her friend in front of you. Do you

1) smile and find something else interesting to do
2) tell her you dont like it afterwards
3) both or none of the above
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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foreverAFC

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i would leave and stop talking to her
 

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Ive actually been in a situation quite similar where my gf didnt ignore me but went socialising with 4 other men on another table in a bar I kinda ignored it and talked to other women on my table. When the evening progressed they all got drunk and she started sitting on the lap of other dudes making pictures.
I was sick about it walked over and took her to the bathroom and had a huge fight. Next day it was sorry's all over, and "it wouldnt happen again".
In retrospect I shouldve dumped her right there, because she didnt have respect for me, which proved later on.

So yeah the best way is to leave and break up.
 

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QuadDeuces said:
Ive actually been in a situation quite similar where my gf didnt ignore me but went socialising with 4 other men on another table in a bar I kinda ignored it and talked to other women on my table. When the evening progressed they all got drunk and she started sitting on the lap of other dudes making pictures.
I was sick about it walked over and took her to the bathroom and had a huge fight. Next day it was sorry's all over, and "it wouldnt happen again".
In retrospect I shouldve dumped her right there, because she didnt have respect for me, which proved later on.

So yeah the best way is to leave and break up.
i see but what if the girl is not your gf but rather just some girl you've been seeing for a few weeks? when does it go from "hahaha look at her pathetic attempts!" to "okay thats disrespectful she shouldnt be doing that"

More importantly, when speaking out, when does a girl go from "this guy is so easily jealous, hes a loser" to "this guy doesnt accept my nonsense, i respect him"
 

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princesimba said:
i see but what if the girl is not your gf but rather just some girl you've been seeing for a few weeks? when does it go from "hahaha look at her pathetic attempts!" to "okay thats disrespectful she shouldnt be doing that"

More importantly, when speaking out, when does a girl go from "this guy is so easily jealous, hes a loser" to "this guy doesnt accept my nonsense, i respect him"
WHen you're a jealous loser, you whine, piss and moan a little, you continue wanting her, and she knows it.

When you cut the bullsh*t, you convey it sternly, leave, and she knows you're gone. You don't take her back unless she comes crawling for you.

Especially if you've known her - what? 3 weeks?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Personally, if she's that into you she knows the first few weeks are so precarious that she won't dare to misbehave at the risk of losing you. If she's she's off searching for jealousy drama she already knows she is in the dominant position.

I had a friendly disagreement (not even an argument) with a new GF once and she was like "are we over? :( ". She didn't go looking for drama until later on in the relationship, it was around about that time that I ended it.
 

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Actions speak louder than words. So don't say a word. Just go NC for a while. Let her initiate anything and be blunt, but polite when you respond.

If she works for your attention, then give her another chance. If she doesn't, then the hell with her and move on.
 

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This is a very simple situation.

If your time is valuable, you call her out on it. If your time
Is not valuable, do not call her out on it. How do you know if your time is valuable?

1. Does she usually text you first?
2. Does she reply right away to texts?
3. Has she stopped with **** tests?

If she does the above, you're good and you can call
Her out on it. Simply because she's more likely to apologize and stop that behavior and respect you more. If your time and attention is not valuable, you ignore her. Why? Because if you call her out on it in this scenario, she'll laugh at you and not take you seriously. As a result, her respect for you takes a serious nosedive.
 

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I would never bother to call her out on that. Always option 1 for me - look for reasons to next rather than reasons not to.
 

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Take that mental note that Danger suggested you and put this girl in the fvck buddies group with no pass to leave it.

Do not psychologically or emotionally invest in her since she proves how her character is sh1t so is sh1t low her interest toward you, a girl which likes you doesnt confuse or do anything that could piss you off, a serious girl even if she doesnt like you would never do anything to humiliate you in such way.

So you own this girl nothing nor expect her nothing beside her body, so keep gaming her and have sex with her while attending other girls which make better prospect as girlfriends and once you're fine just drop her with no further attention.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Who Dares Win said:
Take that mental note that Danger suggested you and put this girl in the fvck buddies group with no pass to leave it.

Do not psychologically or emotionally invest in her since she proves how her character is sh1t so is sh1t low her interest toward you, a girl which likes you doesnt confuse or do anything that could piss you off, a serious girl even if she doesnt like you would never do anything to humiliate you in such way.

So you own this girl nothing nor expect her nothing beside her body, so keep gaming her and have sex with her while attending other girls which make better prospect as girlfriends and once you're fine just drop her with no further attention.
what you mean " a serious girl even if she doesnt like you would never do anything to humiliate you in such way.
 

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QuadDeuces said:
Ive actually been in a situation quite similar where my gf didnt ignore me but went socialising with 4 other men on another table in a bar I kinda ignored it and talked to other women on my table. When the evening progressed they all got drunk and she started sitting on the lap of other dudes making pictures.
I was sick about it walked over and took her to the bathroom and had a huge fight. Next day it was sorry's all over, and "it wouldnt happen again".
In retrospect I shouldve dumped her right there, because she didnt have respect for me, which proved later on.

So yeah the best way is to leave and break up.

damn that's some disrespectful ****.
 

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Danger said:
If you are just seeing eachother, but not exclusive. Then you make a mental note in your head to not commit to her.

She is not worthy of commitment. Like another said, if you are three weeks in and she is showing this sort of behavior when she should actually be on her toes, it tells you everything about how she will act in the future.

Say nothing, don't even act cold. Act like everything is cool and normal, just keep fvking her and never consider her more than sex.
Are you sure she is doing everything on the up and up?

She could have done it purpose, flirting with him just to see how he would react. If he does nothing, she knows he won't protect her in the future, while the previous guy she was with would have called her out which is what she was hoping for, so she loses respect for him and doesn't want to sleep with him anymore.
 

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lamobatsman said:
what you mean " a serious girl even if she doesnt like you would never do anything to humiliate you in such way.
I mean that a girl with any worth character quality besides her pvssy would understand that she is in your group of friends and dropping you (the guy who introduced her) to openly chase an other guy would paint you as a lesser man and would humiliate in front of all.

It doesnt take any intelligence or empatetic abilities to recognize that, if she likes such other guy she could wait till the meeting is over and speak to him privately, definitely not in front of everyone after ignoring you.
 
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