"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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to help a girl move or not?

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if you help her move, while you are lugging big heavy mattresses with stains on them to the moving wagon, she will take her wireless into the bathroom and have phone sex with her jerky boyfriend who had already told her he isn't going to help: "Heellllll Nahhhhhh, I am going to my Bros house, have a few brews, and watch the game on HD". Call me when you are all moved in and we can chill then." So don't do it!!!!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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This reminds me of that Seinfeld episode....Keith Hernandez!!!!

Anyway, don't help her move. She's using you.
 

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blackbelt2k said:
dude, your a man. What makes you think your so far about her?.
I don't get it.

blackbelt2k said:
Just help the girl move. You don't have to spend the entire day, but lend her a helping hand for an hour, then get on with your day. Big Deal.
Why should he go there for an hour? maybe its going to be more complicated then this and it will take alot more time, maybe he needs to take apart her bed or armoire. If he volunteers then he will just waste her time for just an hour while she could have called other chumps to help her move between 3-5 hours. I don't know about you but I have better things to do with my time then volunteer my services to a chick who doesn't give a sh1t about me and would only call me when she needed something from me.

blackbelt2k said:
It will make you feel better about yourself, because YOUR THE MAN, and you helped another human being. Who cares if she wants you or not, you should be above that if your the prize.
How is helping her going to make him feel better about himself? he is going to be sweating like a horse while she prances around with her tanktops ordering him like a slave and in the end of the day he will get a nice half assed hug. In the end of the day he would feel alot better if she blew him, then massage his aching muscles and cooked dinner for him but that ain't going to happen.

Being A MAN has nothing to do with helping a chick to move especially after she rejected you. If he was the Prize he wouldn't settle for LJBF in the first place.

Luveno said:
This reminds me of that Seinfeld episode....Keith Hernandez!!!!
Next thing you know she is going be asking him to drive her to the airport!
 

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When i said 'what makes you think your above her' I meant the whole 'your the prize' mentality is garbage. Your both a prize.
Anyway saying you'll help her for an hour, means just that an hour. If you have to take her bed apart, and it takes up an hour, then leave. You helped what you could, and went on with your life.
You guys are making a big deal out of nothing. I'm sure she'll have other people helping her, not just you. Just help the girl, what harm can come from helping another human being.
 

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blackbelt2k said:
When i said 'what makes you think your above her' I meant the whole 'your the prize' mentality is garbage. Your both a prize. .
How is he being the prize? is that a state of mind or reality? You can say you are the Prize all you want but if you cater to the whims of girls then you are not the prize but they are. A man should feel like he is a king and if this girl was his queen then it wouldn't be such a big deal. But since that isn't the case here, its more like she is the queen while he is her court jester.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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DJDamage said:
How is he being the prize? is that a state of mind or reality? You can say you are the Prize all you want but if you cater to the whims of girls then you are not the prize but they are. A man should feel like he is a king and if this girl was his queen then it wouldn't be such a big deal. But since that isn't the case here, its more like she is the queen while he is her court jester.

Hahahaha... okay, helping someone makes your their fool, good analogy there. To the OP, if you really don't want to help her, then don't. But if your posting about it, it tells me you wouldn't mind helping her, so do it. There is nothing wrong with helping a female, unless she kicked your dog or did something really rude. But refusing to help just because you can't game her, is a nonsense reason. Don't help all day, just tell her you can give her an hour of your time, and do just that help for an hour then have a beer. NEVER BURN BRIDGES.
 

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the OP's not gonna get any pvssy no matter what he does. and it has nothing to do with the girl being a btch or trying use him. they already had a few dates - the guy had his chance but couldn't capitalize on it. at this point he's emasculated and friendzoned. that's his fault

but friendzoned or not, you don't always gotta look at the world in selfish terms. if you don't wanna help her because you're seriously afraid you gonna hurt your back, then you don't gotta help her - just let her know. if you feel bad watching a girl move a fridge all by herself, then use the masculine strength that god gave you and help the girl

but if you think you're commanding respect by suddenly FAKING the prizing thing, you aren't. you're coming across selfish, not higher value
 

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actually i just dont want to help in the move. theres other people as well so im not total ass
 

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stupid question.
 

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blackbelt2k said:
NEVER BURN BRIDGES.
good point. I dont think he should help her move but he should atleast respond back and tell her he will be busy that day. by not responding back she will think he is an ass and that may burn the bridge with her. who knows maybe you will run into her at a bar and she will hook you up with one of her female friends.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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lemme break this down...

if a girl likes you she isn't going to risk losing you by putting a strain on the relationship with a huge favor...so she really doesn't care about you or at least knows you aint goin anywhere

tell her to pick you up on moving day and give you a ride...when she shows up at your house...go for the kiss...unless she has sex with you then get pissed off and say you are not helping her..this way you might get some action and not do any work...lol
 

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Gangster Of Love said:
Tell her you will help her move, but only if she agrees to let her take her out for dinner. There you can have a heart to heart and tell her you have never known anybody like her, and you'd do anything for a chance to make her happy and serve her.
Wont work... dont help her..:mad:
 
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