"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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A girl i really like has asked me to help her move?? ive been put on the back burner from her and i think this wouldnt help really. how should i respond if i say no, just ignore her completely or a simple no?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Never ever help a girl move if she is not your LTR or wife or family member...

Never ever help a girl move if she is not your LTR or wife or family member...

Never ever help a girl move if she is not your LTR or wife or family member...

I had to say it 3 times.
 

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Tell her you will help her move, but only if she agrees to let her take her out for dinner. There you can have a heart to heart and tell her you have never known anybody like her, and you'd do anything for a chance to make her happy and serve her.
 

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Reasons to help her move:
- Good workout
- Good to help out another human being
- She thinks you're strong, so can help her move
- Good opportunity to talk to her and game her

Reasons not to help her move:
- She might be using you
- ... I'm all out on this one

If you've got nothing better to do, help her move. Maybe even try Gangster of Love's move; it could work.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Help out of the kindness of your heart.

Alterior motives are a sugar-coated way of saying you're a damn liar and a damn fool.
 

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I-am-someone, you can't be serious, Gangster Of Love was being sarcastic, are you joking?

You sound like you don't really know this girl very well and you guys don't hang out very often if at all. So why would you help her move? Sounds like she's definitely using your ass, sounds friggin absurd to me...do you think she would help you redecorate your apartment?
 

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shaunuk said:
I-am-someone, you can't be serious, Gangster Of Love was being sarcastic, are you joking?
Whoops, I should read better. Only read the first sentence of his post.
Teaches me not to drink and post huh ;)
 

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lizardking913 said:
A girl i really like has asked me to help her move?? ive been put on the back burner from her and i think this wouldnt help really. how should i respond if i say no, just ignore her completely or a simple no?
If I read this correctly, if she put you on the backburner that stands for "the friendzone"? if that's the case then their is probably zero chance that things will be different after you help her move except you might hurt your back.

There is also a very good chance that she is fvcking some guy right now who couldn't give a sh1t about her or about her moving situation and she knows better then to ask him (the fact that he doesn't care about her wouldn't change a thing about how she feels about him). That is the nature of the beast my friend and there is a very good chance that she asked you because she knew you are the "nice guy" who probably won't say no to her.
 

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ive actually known her for a long time. a couple months ago we went on a few dates but things fizzled. i texted her no and she was like are you serious followed by is it b/c your busy or bc i dont want to. i havent decided what im goin to say yet.
 

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I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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JahGlory said:
Help out of the kindness of your heart.

Alterior motives are a sugar-coated way of saying you're a damn liar and a damn fool.
totally agree with this
 

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JahGlory said:
Help out of the kindness of your heart.
She didn't have enough heart for him to fvck him so why should he bend backwards for her? She is using him because as her so called "male friend" he is still good for something.

lizardking913 said:
i texted her no and she was like are you serious followed by is it b/c your busy or bc i dont want to.
See this is the definition of a b1tch. A b1tch is a woman who sleeps with everyone but you and still has the audacity to think you should be grateful to help her out.

You said no and that should be enough, don't dance to her tune and give her reason. Just ignore her and move on.
 

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thx dj, i was thinkin along the same lines but was mind fvcking myself of different things to say or not say. definately will be ignored!
 

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i had a time when a girl asked for my help and i refused to....it really messed things up between me and her. you should help out.
 

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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Sneaky_Beta said:
i had a time when a girl asked for my help and i refused to....it really messed things up between me and her. you should help out.
You don't have to prove something to a girl.
If saying no messed things up then she was definitely using you...
Are you a wuss or a man ? Are you afraid of messing things up or are you gonna assume what you like (and don't) and what you really want to say to her ?
 

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Sneaky_Beta said:
i had a time when a girl asked for my help and i refused to....it really messed things up between me and her. you should help out.
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yah. like I'm ever gonna listen to anything from somene with your screen name. you sound completely bytch made.

Dood. Just ignore her and move on. If your not her tight friend, best buds and you know you are just doing it to get close to the pussay, don't do it. Don't bother responding to her text either. She acts like she's entitled to your time and energy, as if you have nothing better to do. You know what to do. Man up. What would a DJ do?
 

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Ask her, "what's in it for me?" if she tells you nothing, just say "what are you a puppet?"
 

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dude, your a man. What makes you think your so far about her? Just help the girl move. You don't have to spend the entire day, but lend her a helping hand for an hour, then get on with your day. Big Deal. It will make you feel better about yourself, because YOUR THE MAN, and you helped another human being. Who cares if she wants you or not, you should be above that if your the prize.
 

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Gangster Of Love said:
Tell her you will help her move, but only if she agrees to let her take her out for dinner. There you can have a heart to heart and tell her you have never known anybody like her, and you'd do anything for a chance to make her happy and serve her.
I puked in my mouth a little when I read that. I know it was sarcasm, so then I laughed. The funny part is that before coming to this site, I would have thought exactly this way, and been serious rather than thinking it was sarcasm. Know since I have changed so much, just reading sarcasm like that makes me quessy(sp)
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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