“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
To All Who Talks To Girls Through Msn/aim
- Thread starter Dee-Zy
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What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.
You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
HowardRoarkLaughed
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I agree. Talking to chicks you've never seen on those instant messengers is about the chumpiest thing I can think of. Talk about living in a false reality...
Typing at people on the PC just totally retards your social skills if you rarely interact with real people in the real world. I've actually heard kids, out in the real world, say "L-O-L" (pronouncing the letters) when something funny happened instead of laughing. And they weren't trying to be ironic.
Typing at people on the PC just totally retards your social skills if you rarely interact with real people in the real world. I've actually heard kids, out in the real world, say "L-O-L" (pronouncing the letters) when something funny happened instead of laughing. And they weren't trying to be ironic.
I would agree with that in most cases... But:
1) You can use it to improve on your skills at conversations. It's the cloesest thing to a conversation simulator that you can get. Why I don't use it anymore to try and get with chicks i didn't know, I have in the past and honestly do think that helped my conversatin skills. If nothing else it just proved to me when i first found this site, that showing confidence, being funny, and being interested in her did work wonders.
2) If you know the girl in person it is great! Too many people underestimate this, I currently have a friend with benefits. I did it on IM, even though she lives 5 minutes away. It gives the girls more comfort, as well as yourself. They tend to be looser and less reserved. I have no doubt that if I had asked her in person it would have took 3-4-5 times the amount of work it took on im. Call me lazy if you want, but if it can make things easier/faster, I'm all about it. I used it in my last relationship too, for some reason people seem to be a lot more open and honest on it.
1) You can use it to improve on your skills at conversations. It's the cloesest thing to a conversation simulator that you can get. Why I don't use it anymore to try and get with chicks i didn't know, I have in the past and honestly do think that helped my conversatin skills. If nothing else it just proved to me when i first found this site, that showing confidence, being funny, and being interested in her did work wonders.
2) If you know the girl in person it is great! Too many people underestimate this, I currently have a friend with benefits. I did it on IM, even though she lives 5 minutes away. It gives the girls more comfort, as well as yourself. They tend to be looser and less reserved. I have no doubt that if I had asked her in person it would have took 3-4-5 times the amount of work it took on im. Call me lazy if you want, but if it can make things easier/faster, I'm all about it. I used it in my last relationship too, for some reason people seem to be a lot more open and honest on it.
Chaos-Knight
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I agree.
Messagers are a Handicap when dealing/applying your skills,
And you cannot use -KINO-
My 2 cents: use only for family and your wife/girlfriend
down the road.
I say we make it a new commonsense rule....
"NO MSN MESSAGERING WITH ANY GIRL YOU ARE DATING
UNTIL YOU HAVE CROSSED INTO THE [relationship] ZONE"
Messagers are a Handicap when dealing/applying your skills,
And you cannot use -KINO-
My 2 cents: use only for family and your wife/girlfriend
down the road.
I say we make it a new commonsense rule....
"NO MSN MESSAGERING WITH ANY GIRL YOU ARE DATING
UNTIL YOU HAVE CROSSED INTO THE [relationship] ZONE"
I'm disagreeing with that too...
I defintely do not think guys should be trying to pick up girls in chat rooms, or in personals or any ish like that.
But I do think some of you are underestimating it as a tool. Yes it's a crutch, yes it's lazy and not challenging. But so what? It works. Sometimes it seems to work too well. the level of openess and comfort on im is almost impossible to reach in real life. To me, you do something like kino to get the girl more comfortable being around you. You don't really need that if you're on the computer you're on a whole new level of comfort.
I am not encouraging people to use im to set up dates or talk differently to them then how you do in real life. I act completely the same on there, cuz I'm a very open person in life also. But they as in the women, are much more blunt and aggresive. To me anyway... But if you don't use it I'm not saying fault, just that there are some benefits to using it that some are overlooking.
I defintely do not think guys should be trying to pick up girls in chat rooms, or in personals or any ish like that.
But I do think some of you are underestimating it as a tool. Yes it's a crutch, yes it's lazy and not challenging. But so what? It works. Sometimes it seems to work too well. the level of openess and comfort on im is almost impossible to reach in real life. To me, you do something like kino to get the girl more comfortable being around you. You don't really need that if you're on the computer you're on a whole new level of comfort.
I am not encouraging people to use im to set up dates or talk differently to them then how you do in real life. I act completely the same on there, cuz I'm a very open person in life also. But they as in the women, are much more blunt and aggresive. To me anyway... But if you don't use it I'm not saying fault, just that there are some benefits to using it that some are overlooking.
I long ago got bored of messaging.
In terms of female friends, I like seeing 'em but I really don't have time to yap with them about things on AIM. I mean it sucks up time and all and if I'm not screwing the girl I really don't want to listen to 2 hours of crap about her day or problems or whateva, sorry, but my time is worth too much.
Now if I want to get with a chick i'd rather do it in person, it's hard to convey tone on the computer or to touch her for that matter.
I had a buddy who used it and met lots of girls, but he had some real horror stories as well. He met one or two decent chicks, but honestly, so much quicker to just do it in real life.
In terms of female friends, I like seeing 'em but I really don't have time to yap with them about things on AIM. I mean it sucks up time and all and if I'm not screwing the girl I really don't want to listen to 2 hours of crap about her day or problems or whateva, sorry, but my time is worth too much.
Now if I want to get with a chick i'd rather do it in person, it's hard to convey tone on the computer or to touch her for that matter.
I had a buddy who used it and met lots of girls, but he had some real horror stories as well. He met one or two decent chicks, but honestly, so much quicker to just do it in real life.
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I've used email with a couple chicks in the past as an ego booster, and a tool to help me talk to chicks. Understand reactions to shiat I say, etc. I currently talk to a girl that lives way far away from me every once in a while on email and we've exchanged pics n shiat - shes hot as hell. I know I will probably never see her, but it still gives me some practice and experience with convos.
Don't use it as a substitute for the real thing though - that is just retarded. Who wants to have cyber-sex their whole lives? lol beat ur meat to piece of plastic and glass infront of you.
It also helps a bit when you are talking to a chick in real life - its kind of like having another girlfriend in a way. Just gives you that extra bit of ego - you know that this chick likes you who you talk to on a regular basis.
Plus, you can be open and honest about anything with her because your never going to see her. Talk about whatever you want. Ask her what she would do if you had done this or that with the girl in real life.
I would never give a girl my aim or email from real life though, unless she asked, and I wouldn't ask for hers. I'm just gonna stick with the phone # except for in certain situations
CL
Don't use it as a substitute for the real thing though - that is just retarded. Who wants to have cyber-sex their whole lives? lol beat ur meat to piece of plastic and glass infront of you.
It also helps a bit when you are talking to a chick in real life - its kind of like having another girlfriend in a way. Just gives you that extra bit of ego - you know that this chick likes you who you talk to on a regular basis.
Plus, you can be open and honest about anything with her because your never going to see her. Talk about whatever you want. Ask her what she would do if you had done this or that with the girl in real life.
I would never give a girl my aim or email from real life though, unless she asked, and I wouldn't ask for hers. I'm just gonna stick with the phone # except for in certain situations
CL
Yeah!
I agree that you shouldn't rely on instant messaging, but to exclude it altogether? Blasphemy! How else can I tell a girl with one phone line to get the hell offline so she can hear the sultry sound of my voice?
Haha! Said like a true Stoic!
I agree that you shouldn't rely on instant messaging, but to exclude it altogether? Blasphemy! How else can I tell a girl with one phone line to get the hell offline so she can hear the sultry sound of my voice?
Like anything else it is a TOOL to be managed.
For instance this one girl I am seeing her and I spoke three days in a row over IM earlier this past week. Then I realized that I was turning into her girlie friend so I decided to completely avoid her over IM until she picked up the phone to call me.
So today she finally called and her IL seems to have climbed just a bit. She even threw a jab at me that I was avoiding her .
For instance this one girl I am seeing her and I spoke three days in a row over IM earlier this past week. Then I realized that I was turning into her girlie friend so I decided to completely avoid her over IM until she picked up the phone to call me.
So today she finally called and her IL seems to have climbed just a bit. She even threw a jab at me that I was avoiding her
.Da-OnlyX
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Originally posted by Dee-Zy
UNINSTALL IT RIGHT NOW OR THROW YOUR COMPUTER OUT THE WINDOW NOW!!!
seriously.
....Point taken
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The worst thing about AIM is that you get used to having a "transmission delay" in your communication. I am very eloquent over AIM, but lots of times in a real-life conversation I have trouble coming up with responses right away or speak in a hurried manner. Those kinds of things you can't learn when you have all the time in the world to formulate, type, edit, retype, and then send your response. Try doing that verbally...you'll get some weird-ass looks.
If you MUST talk to a girl through AIM, for whatever reason, for God's sake don't do something like THIS...be brief. And leave the chatroom before she does. That way, YOU'RE the one who is "too busy to sit and chat."
If you MUST talk to a girl through AIM, for whatever reason, for God's sake don't do something like THIS...be brief. And leave the chatroom before she does. That way, YOU'RE the one who is "too busy to sit and chat."
Bonhomme
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Holy Sheeet, Howard!
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Yeah, I read the title of this thread, and was going to respond WHY?
But you beat me to the punch Dee-Zy. No need to rip you a new one.
I just don't get why anyone would want to be IMing someone local when they could be talking on the phone instead. Or just getting together if they live real nearby. It makes sense for long distance situations if you have a land line and/or a minimal cell plan during peak hours, or if someone's in a different country. But local? Really whack.
If that's not a sign of the Apocalypse, I don't know what IS.
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Yeah, I read the title of this thread, and was going to respond WHY?
But you beat me to the punch Dee-Zy. No need to rip you a new one.
I just don't get why anyone would want to be IMing someone local when they could be talking on the phone instead. Or just getting together if they live real nearby. It makes sense for long distance situations if you have a land line and/or a minimal cell plan during peak hours, or if someone's in a different country. But local? Really whack.
squirrels
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Re: Holy Sheeet, Howard!
What's sad is when I was in college, you'd actually hear someone yelling to the guy living across the hall, "Hey Mike! Get on AIM real quick! I wanna talk to you."
Bonhomme
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But Art Love's points are well-taken
One can use it to brush up one's skills, and some gals are just more comfortable with it.
I personally dislike typing, though, and would rather be talking in a one-on-one exchange.
One can use it to brush up one's skills, and some gals are just more comfortable with it.
I personally dislike typing, though, and would rather be talking in a one-on-one exchange.
Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.
Another problem with talking on msn for long periods of time is that it looks like you've got nothing better to do than to sit in front of your computer all day. This is okay for high school kids who have curfews and really don't have anything better to do. But for grown adults, it's just strange.
It's a damn plague! that's what it is!
IE:
Tehy~: "Hey, Jacques~, if ur f4ce is biggr then ur h4nd tehn u have cansir"
Jacques~: "Please, stop."
Tehy~: "Oh my ggod, I'm JAY-SLASH-KAY."
«shudder» It'd be fine if only one or two idiots said it on occasion, but it's fully THREE underclasses that've taken to hammering this off at their every whim. Thanks, God: you're a real chum!
Chucking your computer might be a bit much, but if you're addicted to it to the point where it becomes part of your "offline life", then you should club the computer AND yourself.
The world would be a happier place if people didn't rely so much on circumstance and the outside world to make them happy, and using AIM or MSN (et al.) to fill the void left by an inability to cope with your surroundings... well, CAVEMEN didn't have MSN!
I think AIM (et al.) is (are) making it okay for people to be lazy and--specifically for guys--nice guys to be complacent with themselves.
That's got nothin': the "in" or "cool" or "hip" underclassmen at my high school have taken a liking to using "J/K".
IE:
Tehy~: "Hey, Jacques~, if ur f4ce is biggr then ur h4nd tehn u have cansir"
Jacques~: "Please, stop."
Tehy~: "Oh my ggod, I'm JAY-SLASH-KAY."
«shudder» It'd be fine if only one or two idiots said it on occasion, but it's fully THREE underclasses that've taken to hammering this off at their every whim. Thanks, God: you're a real chum!
Chucking your computer might be a bit much, but if you're addicted to it to the point where it becomes part of your "offline life", then you should club the computer AND yourself.
Ya know, I used to be just like that, back in the day, but then I realized that sitting online because you don't have something to do is just an excuse for not getting up off your ass and FINDING something to do. (I really wish more kids would realize this simple fact.)
The world would be a happier place if people didn't rely so much on circumstance and the outside world to make them happy, and using AIM or MSN (et al.) to fill the void left by an inability to cope with your surroundings... well, CAVEMEN didn't have MSN!
I think AIM (et al.) is (are) making it okay for people to be lazy and--specifically for guys--nice guys to be complacent with themselves.
Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.
Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.