"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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To ALL the BRAVE MEN doing APPROACH JOURNALS

DarthAngel707

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First off, congratulations to everybody who is going out there and doing cold approaches, because this is what this site is all about.

However, and I don't mean to be pessimistic, but how many lays have you guys received from cold approaches both during the day and at night? In my mind after a 100 approaches a guy should at least be getting laid from one out of the next 10 girls he meets...

For me, I can get phone numbers and girls to text me, but kissing and sex I've yet to get to that skill level. It seems if you cold approach, no matter how much interest you generate in the girl you're still known as "the guy she met off the street."
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Daddy The Pimp

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Man , ive done a lot of approaches . Dont know never count them .

And im very thankful that i pushed my self to grab my balls and approach .

I got lots of girls through approaches .

Im not saying that i just met girls and fvcked her . Im telling that i got girls attracted to me , went out with them couple times before doing anything else with them . I live in small city and its great because i approach girls , build some rapport and next weekend i see them to a club or bar . There are perfect chances to get something out of them .

Also , if you dont get laid its great feeling to get a girl attracted to you .
I feel unstoppable :D.
 

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It seems if you cold approach, no matter how much interest you generate in the girl you're still known as "the guy she met off the street."
I guarantee you 100% that there is an interest level at which "place where I first met him" no longer matters. So "no matter how much interest you generate" really isn't true in this case. If you remain 'stigmatized' for having the ballz to go for her when you want her, then she really isn't that interested at all. My opinion (and I suck at cold-approaches but I still try and do them.)
 

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Daddy The Pimp said:
Man , ive done a lot of approaches . Dont know never count them .

And im very thankful that i pushed my self to grab my balls and approach .

I got lots of girls through approaches .

Im not saying that i just met girls and fvcked her . Im telling that i got girls attracted to me , went out with them couple times before doing anything else with them . I live in small city and its great because i approach girls , build some rapport and next weekend i see them to a club or bar . There are perfect chances to get something out of them .

Also , if you dont get laid its great feeling to get a girl attracted to you .
I feel unstoppable :D.
hey, i would like to thank u to really give me the courage to approach cold. i broke free from the matrix and im also doing it often i think.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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mr_elor said:
No, it isn't that simple. In the last year I've probably done something like 300-350 approaches in clubs (which isn't that much in the big scheme), but it's only the last few months (that last 60 approaches or so) that I've had any kind of success.

I seem to be getting sex on a kind of regular basis, but not as much as I'd like.

After 100 approaches there is no way (unless you're a natural with just one or two things to sort) you'll pull one out of every ten girls. Maybe you'll kiss 1 in every ten, get a number etc, but these are easy things to do.

I sarge with a lot of different guys and it seems to be around the 6 to 8 month mark before any kind of success (I was 8 months). It takes about a year and a half to get results on an inconsistent basis, and more time to get regular success (I'd say about 2 years).

100 approaches is nothing, you'll get that, and maybe get a few numbers. It takes as long as it takes.
Yea true . But you can also get a girl in second approach :D .
It doesnt depend always on you . It depends in her mood , in her mindset .
Best way to improve yourself is to do approaches . Even if youre that guy that never spoke to a girl , this will help in lot of areas of life .If i could , i would force some of members here to approach at least once a day.
 

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Could get a definition on what exactly counts as a cold approach. I mean I don't think club approaches should count because people are supposed/expected to be approached in clubs. I think that when you catch someone off guard, that counts.
 

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Maybe 1 out of every 20-30 approaches
 

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SickAgain said:
Could get a definition on what exactly counts as a cold approach. I mean I don't think club approaches should count because people are supposed/expected to be approached in clubs. I think that when you catch someone off guard, that counts.
Every approach counts . Every approach will improve your game .It will take some time but youll get good results :D
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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DarthAngel707 said:
First off, congratulations to everybody who is going out there and doing cold approaches, because this is what this site is all about.

However, and I don't mean to be pessimistic, but how many lays have you guys received from cold approaches both during the day and at night? In my mind after a 100 approaches a guy should at least be getting laid from one out of the next 10 girls he meets...

For me, I can get phone numbers and girls to text me, but kissing and sex I've yet to get to that skill level. It seems if you cold approach, no matter how much interest you generate in the girl you're still known as "the guy she met off the street."
I have noticed that Their stats are in line with what the average male has to deal with but they were brave enough to document all the BS that these women are perpetrating in 2008.. I thank you all too.:)
 

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I haven't approached much lately. I only do night game now cuz I'm busy with school. At night I play a more passive game. I usually bring 6 to 8 girls with me when I go to the club and then the women usually approach me. I don't even have to cold approach anymore.
 

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As commendable as 100 approaches is, it's no metric for your success. It's conventional wisdom to consider a guy a "newbie" until he's done 1,000 cold approaches. 100 cold approaches could be done in 2-3 days if you really put your mind to it. To expect to become some master seducer after approaching 100 girls is delusional. That's like thinking you'll be a master pianist after playing 100 minutes.
 

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Cold Approaches are always hard. One of the reasons I keep a journal is that I can keep track of my own progress. If I read posts from a year ago I can see they're totally different from now. Check it in my signature, that thread is getting redicilous by now.
 

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Entropy4 said:
As commendable as 100 approaches is, it's no metric for your success. It's conventional wisdom to consider a guy a "newbie" until he's done 1,000 cold approaches. 100 cold approaches could be done in 2-3 days if you really put your mind to it. To expect to become some master seducer after approaching 100 girls is delusional. That's like thinking you'll be a master pianist after playing 100 minutes.
Well I think a better gauge of talent is what you learn. If you are going simply for the numbers game then you do not need to 'learn' to get better, you just gotta keep putting yourself out there. OTOH, if you are trying to get better, you have to actively learn from your approaches so that you can see the signs and know when to do <insert tactic here>. In this instance, 100 good approaches can be a lot better than 1000 canned run-throughs
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Microphone Fiend said:
Well I think a better gauge of talent is what you learn. If you are going simply for the numbers game then you do not need to 'learn' to get better, you just gotta keep putting yourself out there. OTOH, if you are trying to get better, you have to actively learn from your approaches so that you can see the signs and know when to do <insert tactic here>. In this instance, 100 good approaches can be a lot better than 1000 canned run-throughs
I totally agree.
 
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