Tipping in France and Poland?

[thunder_god]

Do you need to tip when ordering food from a restaurant or a drink from a bar/nightclub in these two countries? I know in Toronto, Bartenders expect you to tip them $1-2 for every drink you order which is ridiculous.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

In France the gratuities are included although buying one for the bartender at the pub rarely hurts. I'm not certain about Poland but it seems that tipping is mostly a Western thing.

 

[Stagger Lee]

Do you need to tip when ordering food from a restaurant or a drink from a bar/nightclub in these two countries? I know in Toronto, Bartenders expect you to tip them $1-2 for every drink you order which is ridiculous.

I think it is kind of ridiculous too. You pay at least $4 to $5 for a beer that retails for just under $1 and then you're expected to tip $1 for someone to just hand you the beer lol. It's not that I don't want to tip or don't think servers should make money. But if you're paying over $4 for a beer plus paying for the help through tipping, it seems excessive. If the beer was $2 to $3 it wouldn't be so bad to tip. I didn't even mention you might have paid a cover charge lol. When I was going out most nights, I was spending $100s/month just for a few beers each night. You could buy a new car for what I was spending.