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Here's something cool I thought I'd share.... most of it is pretty self-explanatory and intended for guys that are new to the game and looking to learn more... so if you are a master Don Juan you probably won't need to read this (but feel free if you want to anyway):
Beware the fake gurus!
When dealing with books and sources on seduction and attracting women, it’s important to know where to start. But it’s just as important NOT to waste your time and money on worthless books written by crackpot authors. Who is a crackpot? Anyone who writes NOT from personal experience! In other words, anyone who claims their method works but has never tested it themselves – or anyone who LIES about the effectiveness of their method. I don’t care if they have a million doctorate degrees from Harvard! They are STILL liars and crooks if they have never proven that their methods work.
The WORST of the “usual gang of idiots” are the authors who write sappy, mass-marketed drivel that is NOT based on personal experience. We’ve heard of them many times. All of those “relationship” gurus that write books on how men need to “communicate more” and “explain themselves” and buy lots of gifts so that women will be attracted. This is total nonsense. The more you try to “explain yourself” and justify every step you take with a logical argument, as if you are on trial for the “crime” of masculinity, the more you will REPEL women, not attract them. Women don’t want to hear you blab on about your money, your car, your house, how nice you are, or why they “should” love you. Attraction is emotional and unconscious – it does NOT need the woman’s approval! Anyone who has ever gotten laid with lots of women will know this, and any closet virgin trying to pass himself off as a “guru” to make a quick buck probably won’t. Those guys are not seducers, pickup artists, Casanovas, or even anything close. They are failures trying to capitalize on the consumer’s vanity. Their books are not worth a dime, much less a second of your time. That being said, here are some of the worst offenders whose bad advice simply should be AVOIDED.
1. Asexual wuss-man windbags. These are spineless guys with no game. Even worse, most of them have no balls, and quite a few (coincidence?) have gotten filthy rich from marketing bullsh!t dating advice that even a 12-year old kid wouldn’t fall for.
John Gray is the most infamous example of this. He rose to fame in the 1980s for his over-hyped pop psychology books on “Mars and Venus”. Basically, he advocates the old loser dating frame – buy her lots of gifts, shower her with compliments, talk about boring, guarded, “safe” topics, max out your wallet – in essence he recommends that you try to beg and buy your way into a relationship with her. No sex yet, just a relationship where she only sees you as her meal ticket and insurance policy! Then, marry her!
Now, wait – no sex unless you ask her permission really nicely first like a good little schoolboy, and if she says no… buy more gifts! (Meanwhile all this time you had no clue about all the young, confident alpha males she’s been sleeping with while you were at work!)
Gray has another odd quirk about him that marks him as a total crackpot – he says men should “notice” their partner and “be nice to her” to improve the relationship, then the woman should SETTLE for lame repetitive compliments from a boring man who has to go to John Gray for romantic conversation subjects. WOW. What a novel idea! So according to Gray, all the bad relationships and gold-diggers and vicious divorces are the fault of the man not being NICE enough! My friends, women don’t divorce a man because he’s “not nice” (the world is full of women who stay with abusive husbands even when “common sense” tells them to leave) – but they do divorce him if he’s a castrated schmuck and NOT A REAL MAN! What’s interesting is that feminists LOVE John Gray because he tells men to be weak, boring, predictable asexual prunes, but feminists also HATE John Gray because he expects women to be even weaker and more boring than that! The only thing more repulsive to these hags than a strong man, is a weak man who thinks he can control women.
And Gray does indeed try to control – to him, women are fragile flowers that must be nurtured with the tenderest care and spoken to in endless streams of dull and begging “let’s share our feelings” platitudes…He feminizes men and also makes women feel stupid, infantile, and bored in order to boost his own ego. Not surprisingly, women in such a situation won’t even feel the LEAST desire to have sex with such a loser. Hey ladies! Trapped in a boring relationship with a schmuck who gives the same lame compliments and says “I notice you” over and over again like fingernails on a chalkboard, then acts all patronizing like some creepy therapist? You may very well be dealing with a John Gray student (or rather, a John Gray cultist – the mindless mental SLAVERY of some of these guys truly shocks me).
My take on Gray - he is a loser and a crackpot of the first water, who writes purely for profit, not from personal experience. He has NO proven experience in seduction whatsoever. And the needy “beta” attitude towards women found in his books, not to mention their overall vibe, is that of a mentally castrated man who gives away all his power to women and is desperate to overcompensate for it.
Here’s the dirt:
After dropping out of college, Gray abandoned the real world and became a follower of the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi – the same billionaire spiritualist “guru” who held an almost trance-like control over George Harrison of the Beatles (John Lennon openly dismissed him as a fraud). John Gray took a vow of total celibacy during this time, like all members of Maharishi’s cult were required to do, and was rewarded for his years of sexual frustration with an unaccredited degree in “Transcendental Meditation” – whatever that is. He was the Maharishi’s celibate lackey for 20 years! He was the original 40 year-old virgin! Among the wacky beliefs he was required to hold as a devoted follower of Maharishi:
*Anyone who ejaculates will never encounter the divine (despite the fact that Maharishi cult also prays to the Shiv Lingam, the “penis of Shiva” representing divinity and male fertility in Hindu mythology)
* Epilepsy, insanity and seizures are caused by “insulting the gods” and should be treated by drinking ass’s urine (it’s truly shocking that a “PhD psychologist” believed this).
* Constipation should be treated by drinking elephant urine.
* Sex causes dental abscesses (no wonder Gray avoided women for all those years!)
* Meditate hard enough and you can fly (the “Yogic flying technique” – which, even if it worked, would be totally useless for attracting women, or for much else)
* Miscarriages are caused by the woman staring at ditches and waterfalls (Hah! Now we all know where to take a girl if the condom breaks!)
* The solution for impotency is castration! (Perhaps Gray really DOES practice what he preaches!)
And if that’s not strange enough, after leaving this bizarre cult of phallus-worshipping celibates, he changed his colors and suddenly got married - to ANOTHER over-hyped self-help author whom we won’t name here, then got divorced (losing all his previous copyrights to that gold-digging shrew in the process) and re-married to a very un-attractive woman – never even attempted any real seduction or flirting. He has probably never even had a girlfriend – he simply proposed to the first spinster who would settle for him and take care of him like a mother! He hasn’t got a clue on how to attract women – he only tells you to suck up to them once you are already stuck in a sub-par relationship with a sub-par woman. This is obvious if you read even a bit of his books.
This guy, like 90% of self-help authors, is a fraud. He is, and was, and always will be, a failure with women his entire life! He does not offer one practical bit of behavior that will change anything. And he never mentions if he’s had success with attractive women with ANY of his methods. I’m sure SOME women (mostly frustrated middle-aged hags) are willing to settle for advice from a “guru” who couldn’t get laid to save his life. I am reminded of Aesop’s fable about the soothsayer who was out on the street offering that he could predict anyone’s future for a fee, unable to foresee that his own house was being robbed that very moment!
And talk about robbing. Gray had also been involved for years with GENI, a company that distributes his videos and other products, and is largely controlled by the infamous Saudi Arabian arms dealer and international war profiteer Adnan Khashoggi, who used GENI as a front business for several major investment scams. One of Khashoggi’s own cronies was the main sponsor of Gray’s “Venus and Mars” video seminar series. Of course, watch these tapes and it’s almost embarrassing how they sold at all!
Indeed, there are even reports that John Gray’s PhD is a worthless scrap of paper that he purchased from a now-defunct diploma mill. He simply has a million dollar title. He brilliantly repackaged every self-help psychobabble book ever written. He has hit all of the hot buttons that were pre-programmed by hundreds of shady two-bit “relationship experts” who put out their wussy garbage before him. He, like all pop psych “writers” aims at the second most lucrative book market. It is known as the “Frustrated Middle-aged Female” audience. Promise to solve their problem like a politically correct asexual “nice-guy”, and they will desperately rush to buy your book in droves. It’s the best they will ever have anyway. Only junky romance novels outsell these pop-therapy hoaxes.
Beware the fake gurus!
When dealing with books and sources on seduction and attracting women, it’s important to know where to start. But it’s just as important NOT to waste your time and money on worthless books written by crackpot authors. Who is a crackpot? Anyone who writes NOT from personal experience! In other words, anyone who claims their method works but has never tested it themselves – or anyone who LIES about the effectiveness of their method. I don’t care if they have a million doctorate degrees from Harvard! They are STILL liars and crooks if they have never proven that their methods work.
The WORST of the “usual gang of idiots” are the authors who write sappy, mass-marketed drivel that is NOT based on personal experience. We’ve heard of them many times. All of those “relationship” gurus that write books on how men need to “communicate more” and “explain themselves” and buy lots of gifts so that women will be attracted. This is total nonsense. The more you try to “explain yourself” and justify every step you take with a logical argument, as if you are on trial for the “crime” of masculinity, the more you will REPEL women, not attract them. Women don’t want to hear you blab on about your money, your car, your house, how nice you are, or why they “should” love you. Attraction is emotional and unconscious – it does NOT need the woman’s approval! Anyone who has ever gotten laid with lots of women will know this, and any closet virgin trying to pass himself off as a “guru” to make a quick buck probably won’t. Those guys are not seducers, pickup artists, Casanovas, or even anything close. They are failures trying to capitalize on the consumer’s vanity. Their books are not worth a dime, much less a second of your time. That being said, here are some of the worst offenders whose bad advice simply should be AVOIDED.
1. Asexual wuss-man windbags. These are spineless guys with no game. Even worse, most of them have no balls, and quite a few (coincidence?) have gotten filthy rich from marketing bullsh!t dating advice that even a 12-year old kid wouldn’t fall for.
John Gray is the most infamous example of this. He rose to fame in the 1980s for his over-hyped pop psychology books on “Mars and Venus”. Basically, he advocates the old loser dating frame – buy her lots of gifts, shower her with compliments, talk about boring, guarded, “safe” topics, max out your wallet – in essence he recommends that you try to beg and buy your way into a relationship with her. No sex yet, just a relationship where she only sees you as her meal ticket and insurance policy! Then, marry her!
Now, wait – no sex unless you ask her permission really nicely first like a good little schoolboy, and if she says no… buy more gifts! (Meanwhile all this time you had no clue about all the young, confident alpha males she’s been sleeping with while you were at work!)
Gray has another odd quirk about him that marks him as a total crackpot – he says men should “notice” their partner and “be nice to her” to improve the relationship, then the woman should SETTLE for lame repetitive compliments from a boring man who has to go to John Gray for romantic conversation subjects. WOW. What a novel idea! So according to Gray, all the bad relationships and gold-diggers and vicious divorces are the fault of the man not being NICE enough! My friends, women don’t divorce a man because he’s “not nice” (the world is full of women who stay with abusive husbands even when “common sense” tells them to leave) – but they do divorce him if he’s a castrated schmuck and NOT A REAL MAN! What’s interesting is that feminists LOVE John Gray because he tells men to be weak, boring, predictable asexual prunes, but feminists also HATE John Gray because he expects women to be even weaker and more boring than that! The only thing more repulsive to these hags than a strong man, is a weak man who thinks he can control women.
And Gray does indeed try to control – to him, women are fragile flowers that must be nurtured with the tenderest care and spoken to in endless streams of dull and begging “let’s share our feelings” platitudes…He feminizes men and also makes women feel stupid, infantile, and bored in order to boost his own ego. Not surprisingly, women in such a situation won’t even feel the LEAST desire to have sex with such a loser. Hey ladies! Trapped in a boring relationship with a schmuck who gives the same lame compliments and says “I notice you” over and over again like fingernails on a chalkboard, then acts all patronizing like some creepy therapist? You may very well be dealing with a John Gray student (or rather, a John Gray cultist – the mindless mental SLAVERY of some of these guys truly shocks me).
My take on Gray - he is a loser and a crackpot of the first water, who writes purely for profit, not from personal experience. He has NO proven experience in seduction whatsoever. And the needy “beta” attitude towards women found in his books, not to mention their overall vibe, is that of a mentally castrated man who gives away all his power to women and is desperate to overcompensate for it.
Here’s the dirt:
After dropping out of college, Gray abandoned the real world and became a follower of the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi – the same billionaire spiritualist “guru” who held an almost trance-like control over George Harrison of the Beatles (John Lennon openly dismissed him as a fraud). John Gray took a vow of total celibacy during this time, like all members of Maharishi’s cult were required to do, and was rewarded for his years of sexual frustration with an unaccredited degree in “Transcendental Meditation” – whatever that is. He was the Maharishi’s celibate lackey for 20 years! He was the original 40 year-old virgin! Among the wacky beliefs he was required to hold as a devoted follower of Maharishi:
*Anyone who ejaculates will never encounter the divine (despite the fact that Maharishi cult also prays to the Shiv Lingam, the “penis of Shiva” representing divinity and male fertility in Hindu mythology)
* Epilepsy, insanity and seizures are caused by “insulting the gods” and should be treated by drinking ass’s urine (it’s truly shocking that a “PhD psychologist” believed this).
* Constipation should be treated by drinking elephant urine.
* Sex causes dental abscesses (no wonder Gray avoided women for all those years!)
* Meditate hard enough and you can fly (the “Yogic flying technique” – which, even if it worked, would be totally useless for attracting women, or for much else)
* Miscarriages are caused by the woman staring at ditches and waterfalls (Hah! Now we all know where to take a girl if the condom breaks!)
* The solution for impotency is castration! (Perhaps Gray really DOES practice what he preaches!)
And if that’s not strange enough, after leaving this bizarre cult of phallus-worshipping celibates, he changed his colors and suddenly got married - to ANOTHER over-hyped self-help author whom we won’t name here, then got divorced (losing all his previous copyrights to that gold-digging shrew in the process) and re-married to a very un-attractive woman – never even attempted any real seduction or flirting. He has probably never even had a girlfriend – he simply proposed to the first spinster who would settle for him and take care of him like a mother! He hasn’t got a clue on how to attract women – he only tells you to suck up to them once you are already stuck in a sub-par relationship with a sub-par woman. This is obvious if you read even a bit of his books.
This guy, like 90% of self-help authors, is a fraud. He is, and was, and always will be, a failure with women his entire life! He does not offer one practical bit of behavior that will change anything. And he never mentions if he’s had success with attractive women with ANY of his methods. I’m sure SOME women (mostly frustrated middle-aged hags) are willing to settle for advice from a “guru” who couldn’t get laid to save his life. I am reminded of Aesop’s fable about the soothsayer who was out on the street offering that he could predict anyone’s future for a fee, unable to foresee that his own house was being robbed that very moment!
And talk about robbing. Gray had also been involved for years with GENI, a company that distributes his videos and other products, and is largely controlled by the infamous Saudi Arabian arms dealer and international war profiteer Adnan Khashoggi, who used GENI as a front business for several major investment scams. One of Khashoggi’s own cronies was the main sponsor of Gray’s “Venus and Mars” video seminar series. Of course, watch these tapes and it’s almost embarrassing how they sold at all!
Indeed, there are even reports that John Gray’s PhD is a worthless scrap of paper that he purchased from a now-defunct diploma mill. He simply has a million dollar title. He brilliantly repackaged every self-help psychobabble book ever written. He has hit all of the hot buttons that were pre-programmed by hundreds of shady two-bit “relationship experts” who put out their wussy garbage before him. He, like all pop psych “writers” aims at the second most lucrative book market. It is known as the “Frustrated Middle-aged Female” audience. Promise to solve their problem like a politically correct asexual “nice-guy”, and they will desperately rush to buy your book in droves. It’s the best they will ever have anyway. Only junky romance novels outsell these pop-therapy hoaxes.
