"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Tinder game

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So I've just signed upto tinder in order to prevent myself getting too attatched to my current plate.

What's the format you guys aim for..

A person specific opener
Find out a bit about her
Be funny
Ask for her number
Arrange meet up

Something like that?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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I just say random sh!t because it doesn't matter. Most tinder girls are flakes unless they are ugly. I usually comment on a picture if I can. If I'm left with nothing I'll just say their name like I know them..."Juuuuliaa!"

They reply, "sooophomooore!"

Then the opener is done.

Ideally, make some fun comment about their pictures.
 

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Just be fun and not creepy. There are really two ways to go about it

1) Super Sexual - right off the bat, get very sexual, borderline creepy. This is a high-risk, high reward strategy. You'll get ignored most of the time, but you know that the girls who flirt back are DOWN.

An opener i stole from some other dude on here is "you look like you could be fun ;)"

In order to pull this off, you should be good looking, have good pictures, and experienced in making things sexual while remaining a boss..

2) "Safe" polite game - Be slightly more friendly and beta than you would normally in standard text game. Due to the high volume of guys just spamming girls with "hey wanna bone?" or "you're sexy as fvck!" etc, etc....they tend to be more responsive when you be decently nice to them. I'm not saying to be a b!tch. The best strategy is tongue-in-cheek teasing.

After a few fluff messages, quickly number close, and bounce to text messaging. VERY quickly try to arrange a meetup. I try to do coffee shop near my sex location, and then try to get them to come back to your place to fvck.

Be prepared for a lot of flakes.

I second what Sofomore said in terms of shouting their name. I ALWAYS get a response to that. My other fallback is simply "You're cute." It's non-creepy but direct, and miles better than "you're sexy!"
 

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tinder is for fags in my opinion. grow some balls and talk to a girl in real life.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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skinnyguy said:
tinder is for fags in my opinion. grow some balls and talk to a girl in real life.
Faggots probably get more pu$$y than you. Pathetic.
 

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I don't see why you can't do both.

I think with people close to me I can be more direct. Going to be hard to get someone to come 40 miles without first building up more rapport.

It's fun when you see someone you know IRL.

How do I respond if I hypothetically see a plate I'm kinda meant to be exclusive with?
 

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I do both. To be honest I get laid more from real-life interactions. Tinder is a good way to judge what girls like your appearances. It's made me realize that most of what's holding me back is league mentality. I'm slowly shedding it, and Tinder is confirming that if I approached these hotties in person, they will probably like me.

I've seen plates on there. I hit no because it would be awkward. Even saw my ex-gf on there. Stupid ho.
 

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Hitting yes or no is kinda irrelevant imo. It's more how you deal with it if you're meant to be exclusive. I guess I'd just laugh.

Def good for seeing what type of girls dig you.
 

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"Meant to be exclusive"...what does that even mean?

If I was exclusive with someone, I would probably know if they were on Tinder. Any girl that hides it from you would be trash.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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How do you guys go about esculating?

I've tried 'So tell me, what do you use tinder for' as a way to see if girls dtf or wasting time, usual response is what do you use it for..

is there a better approach, how do i word the do you wanna **** or not line?
 

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Tinder is a good tool to set up a meet-up quickly. Within a day or two of matching.

For me, at least, what you do at the meet-up is what matters most. Bring your A-game then.

Match-small talk-number close-text to set up meet-up- then it's all on you.
 

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I'd sooner screen or gauge the girls intentions pre date though. Not interested in anything but banging these tinder girls, ideally on the first date.

May just go with a direct approach after initial small talk/getting to know. If they're not dtf then fine w/e next.
 

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I asked for a girls number and she said: No but can I have yours sexy?

I'm a bit suspicious. This is some kind of polite rejection or would she actually contact me?
 

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I have had some success, although cos im at my parents place i have no place to **** them, any ideas?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I have the same problem. Would like to know.
 
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Just using these as practise til i get back to my uni dorm.

hard work trying to get girls to travel so far, even if they do seem dtf. taking my mind off my oneitus slightly at least.
 
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