"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Tinder failure

AriMamba

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I have refrained from posting on sosuave for so long and just tried to find answers on my own. However I just need to see someone else's opinion on this.


What can cause a woman whom with I had a nice conversation with and she even agreed to go out, causes her to dissapear or ignore me as soon as I ask for a phone number?

I would understand if it was any other site. But Tinder??? Thanks in advance!
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Von

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Online dating is worst than real life dating in terms of flake..... girls will chat, will talk, give number and than dissappear.

Online dating is good in terms of high number, low investment (time and money) but you have to expect they will not always be reponsive. In 1 year, I got around 30 dates in real life, not a single on online dating (did get 1 number and 1 set date but she dissappeared)

It's a number game, increase your numbers by being interesting.

This post shows that you need support, to increase your game. ''nice conversation'' are not ''interesting ones'' .... Review the basic
 

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While Von is right, you have to accept that online dating is a madhouse. Girls with all kinds of crazy problems are on there, for reasons you can't even begin to understand. So don't try to increase your game on women that don't show any REAL promise. "Nice conversation" is good, but nothing special.

Do alot of girls contact you? If so then you'd understand; you wanna be nice to the ugly ones and then they misinterpret until you have to drop them rudely. It's the exact same thing, just from the other side. Few girls actually have the balls to tell you "I'm not interested", which is why it seems so confusing online.

Also you're trying to say "But Tinder???" - everybody knows Tinder is only sex without drama, right? Wrong. Hell I saw a documentary on TV about a woman reporter trying to "date" on Tinder and being royally upset when the guy revealed he was also seeing other women.
 

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Also you're trying to say "But Tinder???" - everybody knows Tinder is only sex without drama, right? Wrong. Hell I saw a documentary on TV about a woman reporter trying to "date" on Tinder and being royally upset when the guy revealed he was also seeing other women.
LOL Big double standard exposed there. Women generally want you to accept that they are dating around/playing the field or whatever, but the moment you reveal you are spinning plates, they can't deal with it.
 

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Yeah. I have to add that she met a couple of AFCs, rejected them, then found a player and was interested - but eventually finished the film by saying he wasn't serious enough about her.

Let's be real, those girls are looking for the 1 in a million deal of the century, and they think they have the choice. While that's completely delusional it doesn't make things any easier!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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