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[jtrain 289]

How long did it take you guys before you were able to pick up a girl and **** her te same day. Ive talked to roughly 290 girls this summer I know ive improved at sarging but I havent gotten a h/u yet and I still only get numbers from fat girls to normals no hot ones yet. Though the girls I already know hot or not they all want me. I still howeve dont feel like i accomplished anything I wantto be able to be so good I **** a girl on the same ****ing day. How long did it take you guys that have done this to do it?

 

[jtrain 289]

hello




Why go through life walking on eggshells?

 

[NickBe]

It is not a question of time, it depends on the person. It took me 3 days to go from guy who got laid occasionally (very occasionally) to the guy that meets a woman and f*cks her the same day. However I am what shrinks refer to as a sociopath, I can alter my whole persona quicker than I can change my shirt.

Some people take one month they are naturals that at some point got a little off track. Some people it takes a year, some people never.

If you are good looking the whole process will go a lot faster.

 

[NickBe]

what exactly are you referring too?

If its the first part I came to this site 5 years ago and found out that my way of think was bullsh*t. I read and read and read and found out what kind of a guy gets women. So overnight I became that guy because I can do that, it is what people like me do. I am empty inside the part of me that people see is an illusion.

If its about the looks making everything go faster then you are just in denial.

 

[jtrain 289]

lol if i have to change my personality which means forget about my dreams and go the security path then i dont want to. I want be like what pook is getting girls naturally.

 

[NickBe]

I never said you needed to change your personality. It will take you a long time because you need to develop the right traits.

 

[jtrain 289]

the only traits you need is self esteem once you have that you have evrything else.When we were little kids we never used to have this problem, we werent shy of people we were actually amazing at approaching people if you think about it. Its not until these stupid philosophies our parents teachers and other kids gave to us that we started to change into afc's . A Donjuan is someone that is perfectly comfortable with himself thats what i think he's not trying to be perfect because PERFECT IS BORING.

 

[NickBe]

Why are you asking if you think you know all the answers? People like you never succeed always the teacher never the student.

By the way idiot self esteem is not a trait.

 

[jtrain 289]

However I am what shrinks refer to as a sociopath, I can alter my whole persona quicker than I can change my shirt.

Lol if iam gonna have to be like that to get girls then im fine jerking off. iask questions because i want Don juans to answer me not Boy toys like you that change who they are to get girls. You arent a ****ing teacher ur a loser thats not happy with himself and has no self esteem i want experianced people to answer me.

 

[NickBe]

I have more self esteem than most people on earth, I am a narcissist I have been told many times I have illusions of grandeur.

I do not change myself to get women because I am nobody to start with. I have no feelings or emotions. I do not think you get the idea. Basically what I am saying is to survive I have to create emotions that are not really there and they need to be genuine enough that people believe me. I am not bound by emotion so I can alter my personality ever so slightly to interact with different people. It is like I create the perfect illusion for every person I meet. It makes it simple for me to befriend anybody. It is not a choice it is a necessity for me, I have no real personality to speak of and I never really have.

That is why for me it was easy to become a DJ I just created a new illusion and over the next year or so perfected it. So I am not really changing who i am because I am a clean slate to begin with.

So I answered you and I told you what you need, I said for people like me its easy but for people with feelings and emotions it's not. You have to develop the traits that women desire, confidence, drive, dominance and a few more. Yes self esteem is part of it but its not a trait. If you have self esteem issues, go to the gym, lose weight, eat healthier, buy some good looking cloths, make some money.

I said from my first post each persons journey is different i took 3 days some people take 3 years. So nobody can give you a workable time frame it is up to you and what you are emotionally capable of. You do not need to be like me to get women I made that clear from that start, but you do need to develop the traits of a real DJ. To do that you need to change yourself, you need to become more confident.

 

[jtrain 289]

if you have no emotions that means you have no soul therefore you are not human . So therefore all you just said is BULL****. All those traits you just said you were born with its just they were covered up by people like you lying to themselves so they can change to be someone else.

 

[jtrain 289]

W/E who you are is none of my business i dont give a **** thanx for the help i know you mean well. Well i hope you mean well lol .Idc how much time it takes wenever it comes it comes. And I will not change myseelf for anyone. The only true failure is when you betray your soul.

 

[NickBe]

I just said I was born with no traits, you don't have much of an education do you? What you said makes no logical sense. How do you know no emotions = no soul? I mean really how do you know? because you are a believer, you believe in God? You seem to have such a narrow minded constrained view of the world.

If who you are does not work for you than you change, you do not fake it you evolve. You work on your confidence, once you become more confident you become more driven. Being driven leads to financial success which again make you more confident. However you think increasing your confidence is betraying your soul so you can't do that but you can increase your self esteem right? Are you retarded? increasing self esteem can only be achieved by increasing confidence which in your mind is betraying your soul.

Oh you are right about on thing, if one takes your theistic description of a soul as the true meaning then I have no soul. I ain't complaining though being soulless has made me a millionaire by 22 and has allowed me to sleep with over 70 women.

 

[jtrain 289]

lol and that is exactly your problem. Yuo are still a nice guy man.How can you try to use logic to figure out yourself this is what confuses people this is what turns people into nice guys people like you players you dehu,manize women and try to dehumanize nature you turn everything into a system of moves equations life isnt like that man . the only thing that doesnt make sense is logic/knowledge all that just brings about questions i dont need to prove to you that you have emotions sould you know you do that is why you are trying to put yourself in denial and say you dont have one. You are the true fool you soul has been currupted bypeople in this world and the stupid philosophies of this world. All this education that you talk about is it not a man that started it all thes beliefs basically evrything in this world where did the foundation come from it came from a man back logic was just something invented by another man. where did he get that from man ? You know the answer man. All these people here that say their so intelligent and brilliant. They can read things that other people made up but they cant even read their own soul that is the biggest shame of all man Thats where ideas come from not the mind your mind is something that just carrys out your emotions feelings wants and needs.A one day old baby already has all the knowledge he needs that is nessecary for life even getting girls you dont get that from a book.

 

[NickBe]

So why are you here?

I was not corrupted by anybody, it is just the part of my brain that controls emotion is not as active as a normal persons. When you take a brain scan of a normal person the part of the brain that controls emotion is bright and fiery, mine is dull and lifeless. I am a diagnosed sociopath and you are narrow minded.

When I said 'what you say makes no logical sense' I was not referring to your meaning I was referring to you construction of sentences.

if you have no emotions that means you have no soul therefore you are not human . So therefore all you just said is BULL****. All those traits you just said you were born with its just they were covered up by people like you lying to themselves so they can change to be someone else.

That does not make sense it is a very poorly constructed sentence.

I do not turn everything into moves or equations, I came here 5 years ago an learned that women do not like needy guys who shower them with gifts. That is all I learned from here then I went of into the world and got laid. I did not bother with all the crap rules. I always depose the rules in this forum so you have no idea what you are talking about.

If a baby has all the information he needs to attract women why are you here trying to learn? Are you suggesting you are dumber than a baby?

You are an idiot you want to put some theological perspective on everything. I am finished posting on this thread, you will never amount to anything. I know that because I know people better than they know themselves, another benefit of being a sociopath.

 

[jtrain 289]

honestly i just come here now to read the book of pook which goes against everything you stand for and i ask questions hoping that real donjuans not metamorphs like you will answer i read your things your a ****ing fake man i read your stuff you put the focus on girls instead of yourself.

 

[NickBe]

Oversimplifying a little don't you think?

I project feelings that I do not really have so I can fit in and survive. I was born without feelings, a sociopath so to fit in i need to project feelings that are not really there.

You are so narrow minded you fit the profile of 'stupid American guy' perfectly. I am not saying all Americans are stupid but the world has that view of America that it is filled with idiots and people like you who can not even construct a sentence are responsible for that.

I was born without the ability to feel genuine emotions, it was not my fault but I adapted and have achieved a degree of success in life you could not achieve in 10 lifetimes. You can not seem to grasp the concept that I do not pretend to be somebody else, I just have the power to choose who I want to be. You are stuck being you, an uneducated, undersexed, narrow minded fool but I have the ability to be whoever I want.

By the way how does Pook go against everything I stand for. I read Pooks blog and I agree with most of what he writes. So how does Pook's opinion on women differ from mine? I told you that you need to become more confident, as far as I know that what Pook is about.

 

[Charm]

Oversimplifying a little don't you think?

I project feelings that I do not really have so I can fit in and survive. I was born without feelings, a sociopath so to fit in i need to project feelings that are not really there.

By the way how does Pook go against everything I stand for. I read Pooks blog and I agree with most of what he writes. So how does Pook's opinion on women differ from mine? I told you that you need to become more confident, as far as I know that what Pook is about.

http://www.cerebromente.org.br/n07/doencas/index.html which is based on research done by Renato M.E. Sabbatini, PhD, states sociopaths do feel emotions towards themselves, just not towards others. So a sociopath can feel happy, sad, nervous, anxious, frustrated, apathetic, etc, but cannot empathize or sympathize with others who have those feelings. So a person who cannot empathize or sympathize and cannot feel punishment will have a greater degree difficultly learning from their experiences in a social setting.

jtrain you may want to check that site out too to better understand the condition of dissocial personality disorder.

 

[NickBe]

There are many studies that contradict the findings of Dr. Sabbatini

See the thing is, you can't understand how my mind works unless you are in it. I am sure sociopaths feel emotions Ted Bundy felt joy when he killed and felt fear when he was about to be executed but does that mean all sociopaths are the same. You can't group all sociopaths together and say well since one feels they all must, it is as inaccurate as saying all blonds are dumb.

Then again maybe I am not a sociopath, maybe I am something different. I hate the word anyway I just use it to make people understand. Also another thing is nobody knows this stuff about me I write it here because it is anonymous but in my real life I never tell anybody what I rally am. Like I said it's survival, people who are different are outcasts.

So maybe I am different to a sociopath, I like the idea of that, different from every other being on earth. One could argue that I do feel though, I am driven to sleep with women so what drives me to do that? is it desire for lust? or is it something more primal?

I have so many questions that I can not answer.

 

[Charm]

There are many studies that contradict the findings of Dr. Sabbatini

I have so many questions that I can not answer.

Having questions you cannot answer in known as confusion. Being confused is important because it leads to illumination if you are sincere about finding out the truth.

One thing I did make an interesting connection with though is the similarities to your description of yourself and that in some ways of a taoist in accordance with taoist philosophy. Taoism states that truly people are a blank slate anyway. A person who actually realizes this can be anybody they want to be, and in essence be free without the inhibition of being who society wants them to be. This realization and living it out is not only subject to a sociopath. Your inability to feel emotions may or may not be a permanent situation. Your lack to change that is directly due to the cause of the problem (a catch 22 if you will). A persons lack of desire to experience and have emotions could be due to many reasons, one being lack of ability to desire having them, another being incorrect knowledge on how to enhance ones ability to feel and/or experience them. I mean, without emotion, how do you decide you want to do anything at all in life? Without emotion, all you'd do is eat, ****, masturbate and sleep. Sabbatini's is suggesting that the brain of a sociopath has the inability to sense, feel, empathize and sympathize with the emotions that other people have, but you can feel your own emotions. By the way, ever seen the movie Equilibrium? Nobody however is suggesting that the condition is irreversible.

Your idea of who you are, being different from everyone else is true for everyone. While many people appear to be just like others, every person is at least slightly different from every other person. Nobody is an exact dupe of anybody else, even two clones with identical dna will have different life experiences that will lead them to being slightly different in some ways. These truths however broad can be seen on many levels though.