Time to give the Little "Princess" an Earthquake

[charlezz]

Hey Guys,

Am dating this HB9 (Let's call her Betty) for the past 2 months; through proper game play, I have progressively turned her lukewarm interest level to the present "above-average to high" interest level.

I have pretty much accomplish everything except for F-close. She is quite protective towards below her pants. Many LMRs encountered when I attempted to reach for her pants; and that has been happening 3-4 times on different days for the past 2 weeks.

We are seeing one another frequently for the past month; progress seems to be struck, I can slowly sense her interest level starting to lower (Verbally, she said she missed me/ love me and her actions doesn't tally exactly <My gut feelings tell me that>) I observe more on actions than words. Thanks to sosuave
So.. before her interest level lower further...


... Till the point I feel that I am not progressing any further; I have decided to give this little HB9 an earthquake...

Currently, she's comfortable with me, she do contact me everyday.. TIME to perform a Takeaway! I am struck at the stage of failing to F-close anyway.

Coincidentally!!!
My ex Girlfriend from Korea (HB8.5) is coming to my country, and I can expect myself to be pretty occupied for the next few days showing her around my country (I love bringing visitors around my native country!)

I am thinking to something devilish which my gut feeling tells me.. It will work!

Objective - F-close HB9 Betty

1) I am going to actually take my attention away from HB9 Betty since she's so used to my attention and physically meeting up. I do expect Betty to ask me out for casual lunch or meet-up (which we frequently did).

2) I will *subtly* note *subtly* show Betty signs that I have meeting up with my Ex gf from Korea, and won't be available to catch up meals with her as I "need" to show her around my country.

3) I predict that it will send her a earthquake.

I read this article by Luis Rodrigues.
The "Stage Three: The Earthquake" seems to apply into my situation
http://www.sosuave.com/articles/stop.htm


Its all-in (F-close) or nothing.

Comments and advices welcome

I will update all progress in this thread.

 

[Die Hard]

I'd say she has been controlling the frame for the last two months.
I'd say she has been having the mental edge for the last two months.

I'd say she would win if the two of you did a staring contest... So if you're gonna do this, you better be steadfast and don't pvssy out somewhere in the middle of the process... For example, when your ex gf leaves for her country again, Betty still doesn't show signs of being moved by the "earthquake" and you suddenly feel alone and needy... Will you be able to keep your head up or will you become weak, give up on your attempt and crawl back to Betty like a man in the desert crawling towards a pool of water?

People always start a staring contest with LOTS of confidence but most of the time, they'll start laughing out loud before even 15 seconds have passed...

 

[backbreaker]

there is no nice way to say this but buddy, if you have been dating a girl for 2 months and have not yet had sex, interest is not above avg. not in the least bit.


this girl is playing you like a cello


there are either one of 2 situtations going on, and i am 100% certain it's one of the two.


1. she enjoys the gifts and dinners but really isn't sexually interested in you but dangles the carrot of possible sex just enough to keep you going forward


2. there is another guy in the picture that she is more interested in that for whatever the reason may be, she can't have right now and you are the backup plan and knows that she would be muddling the water up by adding sex with you into the equation. AS of right now she can quite easily cut you off and she prefers to keep it that way.





because there is no situation, outside of religious reasons that a woman that has known you for 2 months and likes you has not tried to have sex with you. **** really 1 month.


you can't make something be there that is not there. there is no magic pill that you can take, no certain tactic that you can use that will make a woman say "okay now that he has done this or i see this side of him okay now i'm horny" it doesn't work like that. if she does not look at you in a sexual manner the first date it's not happening. you can lose sexually interest, you can play your cards wrong and lose it but you can't win it.

she does not like you.

 

[charlezz]

Thanks for the speedy reply!


Backbreaker, you are one cool guy that i respect a lot in the forum.

Maybe i should add some background;

We both are asians; sex is more towards the conservative side and Betty personally has very few sexual experience (verifiable fact from our close common friends whom we know very well)


Diehard, I will definately be steadfast; I am actually experienced (self-control is no problem) and I am quite a "High-value" male among our common friends. Most girls around know me as a great catch.


As for she not liking me, I feel that she still likes me but not to the level of high interest yet.
Just that I haven't really been a TRUE "challenge" yet till I smell a lowering of interest level, not to the state of "No interest" yet.

Sexual interest... hmm I am not too sure but I am willing to give the above "earthquake" a try.

Hey no harm done. Its all or nothing anyway.
I do realise through experience that if i continue the same routine with Betty, I will not F close her. Time to shake her ground a bit.

If she bites, good.
If not, she wasn't probably too interested in me anyway.

 

[charlezz]

Additional info, although I have written 2moths of dating, in actual fact, we only became "closer" for the past 2weeks.

Before that, we didn't see one another too often

She's 26
I'm 30

 

[vatoloco]

Additional info, although I have written 2moths of dating, in actual fact, we only became "closer" for the past 2weeks.

Wow.

She will be devastated. Too much time invested on her part.

 

[charlezz]

Updates anyway,

It's a busy day for me. I was driving to the airport to fetch my korean ex-gf (we are actually good friends so I really don't mind being a chaffeur to show my country to her). Around evening time, Betty began to text me "You been busy the whole day?"

I didn't see the text as I was driving and she called and I picked up:
Betty: Charlezz! You Been Busy for the whole day?"
Me: Hey, how r ya? Yup quite busy today
Betty: Are u in the gym now? (I regularly worked out)
Me: Nah, on the way to the airport to pick up my korean friend.
Betty: huh?
Me: she is new to the country, need to take care of her a bit
Betty: oh ok... Did you miss me?
Me: missing you will cost $5 a minute, how Many mins do you need?
Betty: LOL, no way am I paying u.
Me: too bad, no discount
Betty: Hmph, since you don't miss me, then that's a bye.
Me: ok bye then

She hang up. Well, seems like a power play but I am quite indiffernent


2hrs later,
She text me, "is that korean girl your gf?? Hehehe" "is she pretty?"
I replied an hour later "it's a friend, I am afraid of havin too much GFs, lol"
she reply with a smiley.
That's for updates

 

[5string]

A very good example of letting a girl know you have options!

Her little hamster is definately exceeding the speed limit.

Good job.

 

[backbreaker]

Updates anyway,

It's a busy day for me. I was driving to the airport to fetch my korean ex-gf (we are actually good friends so I really don't mind being a chaffeur to show my country to her). Around evening time, Betty began to text me "You been busy the whole day?"

I didn't see the text as I was driving and she called and I picked up:
Betty: Charlezz! You Been Busy for the whole day?"
Me: Hey, how r ya? Yup quite busy today
Betty: Are u in the gym now? (I regularly worked out)
Me: Nah, on the way to the airport to pick up my korean friend.
Betty: huh?
Me: she is new to the country, need to take care of her a bit
Betty: oh ok... Did you miss me?
Me: missing you will cost $5 a minute, how Many mins do you need?
Betty: LOL, no way am I paying u.
Me: too bad, no discount
Betty: Hmph, since you don't miss me, then that's a bye.
Me: ok bye then

She hang up. Well, seems like a power play but I am quite indiffernent


2hrs later,
She text me, "is that korean girl your gf?? Hehehe" "is she pretty?"
I replied an hour later "it's a friend, I am afraid of havin too much GFs, lol"
she reply with a smiley.
That's for updates

if you really wanted to spin her head, you woudl not have replied to the last email. new girl in town visiting him + not answering emails = what are they doing together where he cannot answer my emails

regardless of what you say in response to her, the fact that she is here and you are still talking to her shows her that she still has the upper hand. when i am with someone i really like my phone is off.

you have to make her commit. you do this by showing that you are still up in the air about which girl is the best fit for you and give her the impression of that by simply not paying her attention. when she calls dont' answer.


after redint that, there is some interest there but the situtation for her is not critial mass yet. **** needs to get real in her mind, you have to give her the impression that she needs to win you over and by winning you over we mean hving sex. lots' of good sex.

this is what you do. it's the weekend. do not answer one phone call or text from betty. let her soak. let her think / ponder

lol if you really want to make it worse, if you have a facebook account give an udpate of something vauge like "had a really really good time this weekend ". leave it at that. hell you could be watching law and order rereuns it doesn't matter what you are actually doing it matters what she thinks you are doing.

then when she calls you on monday and she will call you on monday, do not answer right then but call back about 30 mins later and talk to her for 3-5 mins tell her you are very busy but you want to see her tomorrow/ wednesday whenever is convenient for you. do not talk beyond that. do not answer any more text.

when you see her, give her the sex test. when she asks about the other girl and she will don't deny but dont' confirm. something like " i'm not going to say there are no feelings there at all but we aren't dating. i don't know what i am going to do right now, i'm just playing everything by ear" that last part is key as it's her opening. the sees the other girl as a threat don't defuse the threat by assuring her that it isn't one. up the touching, don't say anything. if she is not moved on past that, don't say anything, smile and leave, dont' contact her for 3 days or so. do the same thing.

this will bring one of two outcomes, both of which are desirable to you. 1. she will realize she has to step up her game if she wants you and the time table isn't what she thought it was because she has competition. 2. even with competition there she will not up the ante which shows you right then and there, she has no interest in dating you but has interest in keep ing you around. if you do this 2 times and she still is not receptive to your advances throw her number out she is playing games.i

 

[SoldMySoul]

there is no nice way to say this but buddy, if you have been dating a girl for 2 months and have not yet had sex, interest is not above avg. not in the least bit.


this girl is playing you like a cello


.

What BB said!!! Why would you waste your time, your energy? Two months and you have absolutely zero to show. She has indeed controlled you. If I am so inclined, I still hold to the Mystery Method 7-10 hour rule on getting laid. Two months means you are NOTHING to her.

If you ever get her horizontal... I would be very surprised. The window of opportunity has passed you by. Now say bye.

 

[charlezz]

Nope, No Bye in my dictionary, I will try till I feel that the door is closed. Even though on the process I may get myself a bit "invested", but hey this is a game and to me the game is fun!

I have screwed several hot chicks (No braggings intended) just with effective deployment of CP (Confidence Persistence) I see most chicks as fishes; and I am also laying out many fishin rods.

 

[scrouds]

Work her hamster. I see a new pic of you and your korean ex on facebook.

 

[charlezz]

BB, damn you are the man! Your advice really go straight to the point

Either
1) Good sex or
2) let's not waste time

Great~ More updates ahead

 

[charlezz]

More updates with a hint of drama,

Betty literally call and 'beg' me to meet up with her becoz she encountered some problem (Genuine problem which I won't emphasise) she said she's just walking distance from my apartment.

I can sense that she is affected by the Korean girl; I agreed to meet up with her. ON MY TERMs that "ok, u wanna meet up? Go buy a packet of McDonalds Set meal, I'm hungry" she gladly bought a fish fillet set and wait for me.

I brought some beer and we head to a nearby beach in my New BMW, nice seaview and cool beer in a warm weather. Betty is behaving abnormally, 50% of the conversation is revolving on the Korean girl. She kept asking me how hot she is. I just hint her that the korean girl looks nearly like Girls Generation u see on YouTube. "extremely hot, go search it guys>

Clearly Betty is very affected, and her conversation is beginning to turn boring to me... I was a bit turned off honestly. I begin to escalate Kino, attempting to close her in my car. But the same LMR occurs but I wasn't in the mood for sex (I just fvcked the korean ex in her hotel, my **** isn't good for two in a day. Lol)

Although the LMR occurs, her body languages seem more open to my advances. As I mentioned, I am not in the mood for any physical activities. Thus I initiated to send her home as it's late. (I am going to bring the korean our for a tour the next morning)

Betty then turn clearly upset, and said something bold
Betty : "Can I come over to your place now?"
Me: "No, Please go home, let me send u up to ur place"
Betty : ".... Then can we check in to a hotel now?"
Me : "No Sweetie, I should really send u up home"

Betty again turn sad and says..
"Nvm I will talk the lift up myself. If we are not going anywhere together, I AM NOT going to contact you anymore"

I maintained my frame. " i should send u home, sweetie. It's late.. I will catch up with u soon"

She disappointedly went home and text me.. "Thanks for everything.."

Am I screwing things up? Did I let. HB9 Betty slip away like this?
Am I just PURE DUMB? actual fact I am very tired that day
Honestly, I am in no mood for s3x tonight. So I brushed her off.

Clearly, I noticed HB9s usually have not much experiences in dealing with male
rejections, thus they do not know how to react when a GUY actually rejects her; given the fact if she has some interest in the guy.

It's the first time I ever rejected a sexual offer from a HB9. I feel weird..

Tomorrow morning I am bringing the Korean babe out for a tour. PIMP!

 

[charlezz]

After the above, I feel like I am contradicting myself.

Clearly, Betty is not a LTR quality, but shes a fun and cheerful girl to be with and Mad HOT! I want to F close her and I chose to reject her advances.

Am In a weird state, any comments/ next step advices welcome.

I will update this thread with all minor details

A question for the experienced DJs here, will u guys proceed with the "indifference" process, or should I at least tone down a bit and at least drop a casual text the next day to "smoothen her state"? I don't want a situation which she is just going to drop everything.

 

[backbreaker]

More updates with a hint of drama,

Betty literally call and 'beg' me to meet up with her becoz she encountered some problem (Genuine problem which I won't emphasise) she said she's just walking distance from my apartment.

I can sense that she is affected by the Korean girl; I agreed to meet up with her. ON MY TERMs that "ok, u wanna meet up? Go buy a packet of McDonalds Set meal, I'm hungry" she gladly bought a fish fillet set and wait for me.

I brought some beer and we head to a nearby beach in my New BMW, nice seaview and cool beer in a warm weather. Betty is behaving abnormally, 50% of the conversation is revolving on the Korean girl. She kept asking me how hot she is. I just hint her that the korean girl looks nearly like Girls Generation u see on YouTube. "extremely hot, go search it guys>

Clearly Betty is very affected, and her conversation is beginning to turn boring to me... I was a bit turned off honestly. I begin to escalate Kino, attempting to close her in my car. But the same LMR occurs but I wasn't in the mood for sex (I just fvcked the korean ex in her hotel, my **** isn't good for two in a day. Lol)

Although the LMR occurs, her body languages seem more open to my advances. As I mentioned, I am not in the mood for any physical activities. Thus I initiated to send her home as it's late. (I am going to bring the korean our for a tour the next morning)

Betty then turn clearly upset, and said something bold
Betty : "Can I come over to your place now?"
Me: "No, Please go home, let me send u up to ur place"
Betty : ".... Then can we check in to a hotel now?"
Me : "No Sweetie, I should really send u up home"

Betty again turn sad and says..
"Nvm I will talk the lift up myself. If we are not going anywhere together, I AM NOT going to contact you anymore"

I maintained my frame. " i should send u home, sweetie. It's late.. I will catch up with u soon"

She disappointedly went home and text me.. "Thanks for everything.."

Am I screwing things up? Did I let. HB9 Betty slip away like this?
Am I just PURE DUMB? actual fact I am very tired that day
Honestly, I am in no mood for s3x tonight. So I brushed her off.

Clearly, I noticed HB9s usually have not much experiences in dealing with male
rejections, thus they do not know how to react when a GUY actually rejects her; given the fact if she has some interest in the guy.

It's the first time I ever rejected a sexual offer from a HB9. I feel weird..

Tomorrow morning I am bringing the Korean babe out for a tour. PIMP!

this is why i don't even bother half the time lol. good god. why are you even posting here?


i'm going to tell you, exactly verbatium what's going to happen in the next few days and im' going to look like nastradomas when in reality just every guy here has been through the exact same situtation you have tgoo many times.

the girl will met up with you. she will lay it on thick. she will flirt, she will kiss, she will pet, she will turn up the "sexual tension", she will put the carrot on your plate and put some potatoes right next to it. all the while she will be asking you what is going on with the other girl, the second that she feels that the other girl is not a serious threat, she will pull back and tell you that she doesn't know what she wants, etc

you do not get it. what's pissing me off is that i am wasting my one of 10 posts a day for someone who isn't even attempting to get it. then you will come back here and talk about how women are so cunning and baffling and you "just don't get them" but the signs are as clear as day. when a woman who doesn't want to **** you for 2 months all of a sudden wants to **** you when there is competition, the correct answer is that she is trying to maintain one of her orbiters. just because she is giving you attention does not mean she have any intention of ****ing you and if she went 2 months without ****ing you now, if she can by any chance get by without ****ing you for another i assure you she will.


and i can be this blunt because i have done the above, at least 10 times from the time i was 19 utnil the time i was 22 with the same damn girl, never had sex with me, and i'm talking years not months, and everytime she felt threatened she would up the ante, spend the night, go for walks with me int he park, tell me how she is ready to leave her man just enough to get me to drop the plate then "oh i don't know what you are talking about we are just really good friends". time and time again. this girl is no different she's a woman this is how women operate. actions not words.

you think you have 2 options right now and come next week yo won't have one because you would would have tossed the ex because you thought you were going somewhere with betty and she is going to give you a hard LJBF speach

 

[charlezz]

Bb, I supposed what u mean is to not even let my guard down. Keep my korean ex around as a chip for Betty to up her ante.

That being said, is there any possibility that she will just "snapped" and "give me up"? After the most recent update as above. Aka rejected her proposal to the hotel.

I was thinking... It may create an even stronger sexual tension for her the next time we meet

 

[charlezz]

LR: well, a LR with no substantial "volume"
I got her to a hotel and we were both naked.

No more LMR, BUT she is lying down like a dead fish. When I kiss, she just don't respond. Whatever I do, she just don't respond.

Basically, it's just a beautiful "dead" body for me to have sex with. No LMR

I can't erect. My **** is all soft. That's my nature. I cannot even get a hard on. And I can't even penetrate becoz it's too soft.. Does any guy here have This problem? She is available for me to fvck... But in the end, I smile and tell her.. I don't feel like fvcking u.. in my mind was like.. Bitach you are boring..

When I have sex with the other girls, they were responsive and the feeling is great.

 

[charlezz]

To emphasize, I cannot erect to any girls whom is just a "dead" beautiful corpse.

Any guys have experience like this? I feel a bit sucky

 

[Kenny Powers]

the stuff your dealing with is way above my head haha so I wasn't even going to bother tying to giv advice until I saw the dead fish comment. Oh my god I hate dead fish girls (been with 2 - though one was a virgin)! They are so fvcking stupid and annoying. Its the ultimate princess move/game in which they challenge you to do all the work while they show no investment what so ever.

Consider calling her out on it or being like "have you ever been with a guy before?"

Keep us updated, im curious to see how this ends up. Also i get the impression your starting to panic about the possibility of losing betty. Don't let this affect your overall approach to her. Remember your initial game plan of the earthquake man! She is clearly concerned about this korean babe, so keep her concerned. Honestly, this girl seems pretty insecure and lame - especially sexually. Would it really be so bad to lose her? I bet if you don't let losing her bother you it will increase your chances of getting with her.