"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Time For Some GRATITUDE!!!

Nine Breaker

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With all the whinging and complaining that seems to be gripping the Forums these days, it's easy to lose sight of the big picture.

Many here seem to take these Forums for granted. Indeed, without them, many of today's DJ's would still be scared and confused every time a woman said "hi" to them. This site has helped transform poor confused AFC's into strong, confident real men who are ready to sieze their dreams and live life to its utmost. It has allowed guys (and occasionally gals) to come together and help eachother out when each of us lost our way and needed help.

I just thought it was about time that somebody raised his voice and gave a "THANKYOU" to all the moderators, administrators, and EVERYONE else who makes the DJ Discussion Forums, and Sosuave.com itself, the great source of knowledge and help that it is today, and has been since it's humble beginnings.

Thankyou.

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The Human Body Is A Fragile Thing, But The Human Soul Can NEVER Be Truly Broken.

"Now you see that evil will always triumph, because good is dumb." - Rick Moranis, "SpaceBalls"
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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trickynick

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Thanks for the props, NB! And thank you for your contributions.

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You either own the game or it owns you!
 

stuartSan

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Bump.

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i'd rather die than give you control
 

extravaganza

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Hmmm yep your right nine breaker.

Before I came here I was a REAL big afc. Real nervous around girls, low confidence and really desperate for girls


Now thanks to this site I'm not that nervous anymore (just a little bit like its supposed to), my confidence is real high and even though I don't have that many ladies I'm happy because life is overall good for me.

Not only has it learned me to get girls if I want too, it has also learned me to be the best man I can be and enjoy life the way it is.

Thanks to everyone who made this possible.


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Those are my principles. If you don't like them I have others. - groucho marx
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Linkin Skip

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I'd like to add my 2 cents here. This is a great discussion board - I only wish I had found this years ago! I am quite the late bloomer... but better late than never.


It's refreshing to find a board by men for men (no offense to the female posters here however). The last relationship-focused board I was at was decent, but it became overrun by female posters giving the most horrid advice!

Goodbye AFCville, hello DJTown!
 

Anson

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Here here!

This forum is something great, something unique, something precious. I wouldn't be even half the man I am if this site didn't exist. I owe it all to you guys!
 

derWichtigste

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Amen...

wait, i dispise religion.

Damn right! (thats better)

My thx to all too. Many a lives have been changed thx to the site....
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If you do not control the way how you think, someone else will!
(my view on life, and finally found it in words in one of Pooks posts)

Ich bin vielleicht nicht der Beste, aber ich bin doch besser als die Reste
I am maybe not the best, but I am better than the rest!
 

Galactus

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I think I've mentioned several times how much this site has helped change my life for the better. Nothing in my life has helped me in my dealings with women more than what I learned in just the first couple weeks here.

I'm definitely all about the gratitude. You people have helped me to end years and years of frustration and sadness, all because I thought being a nice guy was what women wanted. I had thought that it would pay off in the end. I've learned that unfortunately, that's not the case.

I'm still a decent guy, I care about people in my life, and I go out of my way to be kind and help others, but now I know that I have to do these things with an attitude that demands respect. Now I get more respect, because people (not just women) know I'm wise to their manipulative ways.

Our cause here is a noble one. It's really obvious from reading these posts, that there are huge numbers of men out there that are as frustrated as I was, being put through the wringer by women. Things aren't equal between the sexes. This has an enormous impact on our society, on history. If men can gain a little leverage in their dealings with women, it can change the world.

The words "THANK YOU" are just so inadequate for how much I've gained, and continue to gain, from you guys.

Anyway, thank you.
 

derWichtigste

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I think the best and only way to say Thank Yoou is to come back here often, and help those who ask for it.

And continue writing damn good posts like that one you just did, gal.



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If you do not control the way how you think, someone else will!
(my view on life, and finally found it in words in one of Pooks posts)

Ich bin vielleicht nicht der Beste, aber ich bin doch besser als die Reste
I am maybe not the best, but I am better than the rest!
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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