"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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R1ch4rd

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This site is mostly writen for Americans, in America for American girls. I'm not doubting the fact that womens minds are different.
But some techniques, words and there is the culture difference etc.
So any UK lads want to share some advice, I've only started this about a 3-4 months ago, but the UK lads will now what I mean by getting that fit bird alone on the bus number etc.
Also I'm starting sixth form in september, want make good impression, clean slate, frist mixed school since primary, and the secondary school is all girls anyway :p.

So any advice, information for what you lads from the UK do would be helpful, alot.
Cheers


Maybe this could be stickied?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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The United Kingdom for the win!

But yeah, I questioned about cultural differences a while ago and here's the stuff I've gathered then and in the meantime:

Discount the High School forum by and large. English schoolgirls think every different to American girls. Either they are very happy to hook up with no strings, or they won't give it up till uni, or college at the very least. But the girls that are willing to hookup real easy probably aren't worth having in most cases.

Not as many girls have the 'pedestal' attitude, so C+F has to be toned down or it will backfire, even if you think they are hot. Check to see any stuck-up egos first.

The concept of going on dates/hanging out before actually being friends with girls is a largely alien concept to British people, but I get the impression that's because both guys and girls are total chumps in such matters, partially u21s. Those that are not hung up about making friends or getting to bed aren't so stuck up about it.

British people have no idea about kino except maybe the more cultured southerners. So again, don't overdo it as it may appear 'creepy'. Wait for escalation signals. In keeping with this, knowledge about the 'Game', 'PUAs' is less widespread so you're less likely to be called on it.
 

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Noob lee, I am from southeast england.

Hughman said:
The United Kingdom for the win!

But yeah, I questioned about cultural differences a while ago and here's the stuff I've gathered then and in the meantime:

Discount the High School forum by and large. English schoolgirls think every different to American girls. Either they are very happy to hook up with no strings, or they won't give it up till uni, or college at the very least. But the girls that are willing to hookup real easy probably aren't worth having in most cases.

Not as many girls have the 'pedestal' attitude, so C+F has to be toned down or it will backfire, even if you think they are hot. Check to see any stuck-up egos first.

The concept of going on dates/hanging out before actually being friends with girls is a largely alien concept to British people, but I get the impression that's because both guys and girls are total chumps in such matters, partially u21s. Those that are not hung up about making friends or getting to bed aren't so stuck up about it.

British people have no idea about kino except maybe the more cultured southerners. So again, don't overdo it as it may appear 'creepy'. Wait for escalation signals. In keeping with this, knowledge about the 'Game', 'PUAs' is less widespread so you're less likely to be called on it.
Thanks mate, you have answered some of my questions. I have been too C+F sometimes and the girls are like wtf. I get some Kino, but not as much as the site informs us about. And the meeting up i get, some girls just meet up, and go out just like that.

Sorry what is PUA's?

Thanks again mate, all other advice is welcomed to be shared her for us young UK men
 

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To be absolutely honest, there's not that much difference at all. We don't really go on 'dates', we don't say 'hook up', college =/= university, secondary school girls think quite differently to American high school girls, and cold approaches are creepy.

But the core message of this site, and the main principles of being a Don Juan still apply.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Having been to the US (Chicago) and in the UK (London), and living in Australia, I've noticed that it's pretty much exactly the same.

They're all women, they are attracted to the same things, and the same techniques work on them.

You always tailor your approach to the specific woman you are approaching, of course. Some countries have more shy, mellow women, others have more party women. Some towns are quieter and generally have more mellow women (like a small one with 5000 inhabitants), some have more out-there people and party girls, e.g. Los Angeles.

English schoolgirls think every different to American girls. Either they are very happy to hook up with no strings, or they won't give it up till uni, or college at the very least. But the girls that are willing to hookup real easy probably aren't worth having in most cases.
Still attracted to the same things. Most women are somewhere in between, but I have noticed that British teen girls are a little more towards the two extremes than most Australian girls.

English schoolgirls think every different to American girls
Still attracted to the same things.

British people have no idea about kino except maybe the more cultured southerners. So again, don't overdo it as it may appear 'creepy'. Wait for escalation signals. In keeping with this, knowledge about the 'Game', 'PUAs' is less widespread so you're less likely to be called on it.
Kino is never inappropriate or creepy when done right, and is always creepy and inappropriate when done wrong. Some women need slower escalation than others.

and cold approaches are creepy.
Like above. If a cold approach is done right, it's not creepy, if it's done wrongly, it's awkward at best and creepy at worst.

Not as many girls have the 'pedestal' attitude, so C+F has to be toned down or it will backfire, even if you think they are hot. Check to see any stuck-up egos first.
They may not have the attitude, but they still have the masses of men after them, so they are used to being the prize, even if they don't outwardly act stuck up. C+F should always be adjusted depending on the woman, but should always be there.
 

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Captain said:
Having been to the US (Chicago) and in the UK (London), and living in Australia, I've noticed that it's pretty much exactly the same.

Still attracted to the same things.

Of course, I agree fully, I'm not saying don't be a man, and don't do what's suggested on here, but social conventions are different and more conservative so you have to tread more carefully.
 

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Smack said:
To be absolutely honest, there's not that much difference at all. We don't really go on 'dates', we don't say 'hook up', college =/= university, secondary school girls think quite differently to American high school girls, and cold approaches are creepy.

But the core message of this site, and the main principles of being a Don Juan still apply.
Yes. Nothing more to add.

And for the other guy, PUA - pickup artist.
 

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One of the biggest and most important differances that you MUST remember (trust me) is that British people in general are a lot less touchy-feely than Americans

go about the entire process carefuly as for some reason we all seem to be awkward socialy (at least where I am) (or is this just me and my school/friends?)
 

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pjtheman said:
One of the biggest and most important differances that you MUST remember (trust me) is that British people in general are a lot less touchy-feely than Americans

go about the entire process carefuly as for some reason we all seem to be awkward socialy (at least where I am) (or is this just me and my school/friends?)
Yes, the Brits are generally socially retarded unless in closed company (in which case you're stuffed as the girls in question are going to have plonked you in the LJBF camp) or with drink in the system. I much prefer European and Americans on the way they conduct dating and relationships. I live in Greece for 10 years and I had several American friends, so this is from personal experience.

Kino has to be more subtle, but the big bold moves like taking hold of her arm if she walks off
http://roissy.wordpress.com/2009/03/21/alpha-move-of-the-day/
pay off massively. Suddenly engaging in kino with people that aren't used to it from you will creep them. It happened to me when I learnt about it, but I toned it down, and now I'm fine. And it's about mirroring. If you're comfortable with kino, they'll subconsciously drop their barriers to it, and start it as well.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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