"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Thou Shall Not Pedestalize

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Last night's lucky chick: HB 8.5, 27 yos, Greek

I met her in an organic supermarket a few weeks back. Texted her last night at 10pm for the first time, lol, and asked if she would like to meet up for a drink. We made plans to meet locally at 12 a.m.

I arrive early at 12:15, and there she is, sitting at the bar. She looks hotter than I remembered her. So the conversation ensues. I banter. She doesn't or maybe is unable to reciprocate my wit. After one-half hour, "I get you are annoying," "You are weird," "You are aggressive," ... This girl is certainly not trying to score any brownie points with me--or it seems. This is a new experience for Guru to be called annoying and weird. Could it have been a long day? Could it be low interest? Let's see... I employ my silence tactic: Stay silent, watch her mannerisms, and wait for her to break the silence. This is a test of interest. Victory goes to thee who does not speak first.

The silence ensues, I kid you not, for seven minutes. Not a word from her. Not a word from me. We just sit there. She looks at me and away every 30 seconds, for this 7-minute battle of wits. Seven minutes later, she breaks the silence, "Why are you so quiet?" Ha! The hubris and cojones this girl possesses: She stays silent for seven minutes and asks why I am so quiet. I excuse myself to the bathroom and eject out of the place.

She calls 15 minutes later:

Girl: Where are you?

Guru: I left

Girl: What? (sounds like she is about to cry)

Guru: Ya, I wasn't feeling it. Sorry.

Girl: This never happened to me. How could ... Ughh. Goodbye

This morning she texts, "You are such an azzhole." LOL

Could this be a story of a girl with low IL. Maybe, maybe not. One thing is for sure: Nobody ever treated her this way before.

DO NOT pedestalize women--ever. If she brings no more than good looks to the table; if she does not bring her best convo/attitude forward, ALWAYS be ready to drop her.

Carry on.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Yeah, it seems like I have met a number of girls lately who are terrible at conversation. Sometimes they get better once they get to know you. Sometimes not.

I wouldn't take the "Weird" and "Aggressive" as insults. To be called "Annoying" is pretty obnoxious, though, unless it was a joke.
 

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Damn, Guru, you didn't get the lay in the first half hour? You must be slipping, lol.

Seriously though, good call. She was acting up for some reason, and who needs the disrespect? Some of these bisches think they can get away with anything.
 

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guru1000 said:
Last night's lucky chick: HB 8.5, 27 yos, Greek

I met her in an organic supermarket a few weeks back. Texted her last night at 10pm for the first time, lol, and asked if she would like to meet up for a drink. We made plans to meet locally at 12 a.m.

I arrive early at 12:15, and there she is, sitting at the bar. She looks hotter than I remembered her. So the conversation ensues. I banter. She doesn't or maybe is unable to reciprocate my wit. After one-half hour, "I get you are annoying," "You are weird," "You are aggressive," ... This girl is certainly not trying to score any brownie points with me--or it seems. This is a new experience for Guru to be called annoying and weird. Could it have been a long day? Could it be low interest? Let's see... I employ my silence tactic: Stay silent, watch her mannerisms, and wait for her to break the silence. This is a test of interest. Victory goes to thee who does not speak first.

The silence ensues, I kid you not, for seven minutes. Not a word from her. Not a word from me. We just sit there. She looks at me and away every 30 seconds, for this 7-minute battle of wits. Seven minutes later, she breaks the silence, "Why are you so quiet?" Ha! The hubris and cojones this girl possesses: She stays silent for seven minutes and asks why I am so quiet. I excuse myself to the bathroom and eject out of the place.

She calls 15 minutes later:

Girl: Where are you?

Guru: I left

Girl: What? (sounds like she is about to cry)

Guru: Ya, I wasn't feeling it. Sorry.

Girl: This never happened to me. How could ... Ughh. Goodbye

This morning she texts, "You are such an azzhole." LOL

Could this be a story of a girl with low IL. Maybe, maybe not. One thing is for sure: Nobody ever treated her this way before.

DO NOT pedestalize women--ever. If she brings no more than good looks to the table; if she does not bring her best convo/attitude forward, ALWAYS be ready to drop her.

Carry on.
All we hear is one side of the story. Who knows how your wit translated to her, what you said, or how insecure she might be inside that caused things to turn out the way they did. Perhaps you were putting her down or seeming more intelligent? No one knows but you. But to give you benefit of the doubt.

Could be "You are annoying" in your case translated to: "You are annoying. Why aren't you kissing my azz like so many others do?" and "You are weird" translated to: "You are weird. I've never had a guy not put up with my attitude and or lack of personality that I coast by on through my looks. This is a first." (She basically admitted to what I suspect in saying "You are weird" in her call later on saying: Girl: This never happened to me. How could ... Ughh. Goodbye) And "You are aggressive" translated to: "You aren't going to let me win this standoff because I'm a hot babe like so many other thirsty chumps who I wind up having no respect for do."

She obviously was interested as she texted and showed emotion/caring by calling you an "azzhole" the next day. If she didn't care she wouldn't have bothered calling when you left and then texting you the next day. She may have wanted her cake and to eat it too. Meaning a date with a hot guy but also one who puts her on a pedestal as if she has little personality, wit etc. she is only used to dudes liking her and going after her based off her looks and nothing else.

Could be she's used to having her azz kissed by thirsty dudes and it shocked her system that you were willing to walk away from her (if you weren't putting her down or something like that and she is simply an entitled princess b1tch IRL.)

I agree with you fully on not pedestalizing chicks and walking away from nonsense (if you truly weren't the cause of her acting like she did.)

This is the problem with those in the religion of "game". Instead of being a man and walking away if a chick is being a b1tch no matter how hot they'll instead try to "game her better" to "win" some silly "war" to prove to themselves and others rather than just walk away and call it GAME OVER for her.
 

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guru1000 said:
One thing is for sure: Nobody ever treated her this way before.
You deserve a cookie and a pat on the back for that, sir.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Hmmmm OP and others -

I agree and practice the walking away thing with hot women. Have done and do still do this myself. However in some cases I have had outstanding success in bedding some of these very attractive women at a later date.

If I had totally ignored them after having rejected them, I never would've banged any of them.

Just saying it may pay to keep an open mind on these hot *****es for a later thump and dump. I certainly don't put them on a pedestal. I know doing that will incur their wrath very quickly - even though that's something an AFC will never recognize.
 
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