This the real reason why cities like Toronto and San Francisco have bad reputations?

[HowardHughesDicaprio]

I have a friend that moved to San Francisco about 8 months ago and he said he hates it there. Asked him why that was and he told me his entire story which I won't waste your time with. Simply put my friend was a private school kid that ended up moving there due to a good opportunity for his career. Like others I know in the city, the common complaints I hear are:

- ratios
- not that many attractive women
- terrible dating culture

When I did go to San Francisco, I noticed there were attractive women there. The catch is that there were not many attractive white women there. Having talked to my friend about it, he told me that the other reason he dislikes San Francisco is due to the lack of attractive women of his own race (white) and the few that are there he faces stiff competition than he would have back in his town in the midwest.

Then I looked at one of the things which makes Toronto terrible and guys said it was the lack of attractive white girls and the few that are there tend to have massive egos due to being pursued so much.

Is this the real reason those 2 cities have bad reputations?

 

[AttackFormation]

Err... I'm European so maybe I'm just not updated on how things roll over there, but why is it a bad/good thing that there aren't as many girls with white skin around? is this some kind of inbred racism leftover (USA does seem to be a lot more casually racist than here from what I've observed over the internet and what people who have been there have told me but I haven't been there personally so...), a physical preference, codeword for wanting people who are less likely to be bottom feeding drug addicts etc. or what?

 

[HowardHughesDicaprio]

It's nothing to do with racism but more so with physical preference. Men in the US tend to prefer white women over all races and latinas are a close second, middle eastern women are also sought after. Asian women tend to be fetishized and black and indian women are not that liked. All in all, most people prefer to be with others that look like them. White men prefer white women which toronto and san fran do not provide that many of.

 

[usernamedox11]

Few reasons

-Girls who are nothing special have inflated logos. A 4 thinks she is a 9 here. 49er like you said earlier.
-Lots of the girls are hippies and have no class
-The girls are not that attractive. If a girl is an exception, she usually isn't the full package (nice face with stick body or nice body with average face)
-The enormous amount of hipster douches here
-Lots of the girls are overly liberal
-The decent quality girls want the white guy that works at a startup.

 

[HowardHughesDicaprio]

I have seen a few hot girls in San Francisco but they were almost always asians or mixed. It is a big city with a sizable number of hot asian girls. For white girls, you will need to go elsewhere it seems. Hot white girls are tough to find in san francisco and the ones that you can find, the competition is very stiff since they are always being approached and pedestalized.

 

[skinnyguy]

I'm going to argue SF is the worst place in the United States for dating. You have to be a Matt Damon look alike or else you won't get anything. Reasons: 1) 60% Asian..and the girls only want white men 2) High population of gays which makes women messed up because they become fag hags 3) Very expensive to live in, which makes women gold diggers 4) Club scene is horrible

 

[HowardHughesDicaprio]

I'm going to argue SF is the worst place in the United States for dating. You have to be a Matt Damon look alike or else you won't get anything. Reasons: 1) 60% Asian..and the girls only want white men 2) High population of gays which makes women messed up because they become fag hags 3) Very expensive to live in, which makes women gold diggers 4) Club scene is horrible

I have seen Asian women go for all races. In my area I am starting to see lots of young couples that involve asian women with black men and have even seen them date indian guys, needless to say I see a lot with white guys too. At a restaurant I ate at in San Fran there were a young attractive couple that joined us where the woman was asian and man was indian.

 

[usernamedox11]

I'm going to argue SF is the worst place in the United States for dating. You have to be a Matt Damon look alike or else you won't get anything. Reasons: 1) 60% Asian..and the girls only want white men 2) High population of gays which makes women messed up because they become fag hags 3) Very expensive to live in, which makes women gold diggers 4) Club scene is horrible

Yup, at least if you want a decent quality girlfriend (7 and up, good body, no drug use, etc) and not a hippie marijuana zombie who thinks she's counter culture even though everyone in SF is a stinky hippie.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

It's nothing to do with racism but more so with physical preference. Men in the US tend to prefer white women over all races and latinas are a close second, middle eastern women are also sought after. Asian women tend to be fetishized and black and indian women are not that liked. All in all, most people prefer to be with others that look like them. White men prefer white women which toronto and san fran do not provide that many of.

That statement just sounded dumb. Maybe in your experience or where you have lived. But Latinos are the number one choice, White women are second, but Middle Eastern women interests are growing so much white women in my experience will be getting knocked down to third. Then again hispanics are not a race. Their are white latins, black, mulattoes, tri racials mixes, asians. Everything so humph

 

[HowardHughesDicaprio]

Ya well have fun in your little imaginary world. White women are by far the most sought after women worldwide and here in America, especially if they happen to be Blonde or Northern European looking. Most rich guys in the USA that you see living in nice neighborhoods who happen to be White are married to blondes. White women, regardless of hair color (unless they are ginger), are at the top of the ladder.

Don't get me wrong, I'd take a middle eastern girl over a white girl myself and maybe even a latina if she looked like Penelope Cruz but for most guys white girls are at the top of the ladder. Most girls try to imitate white girls like Kim K coloring her hair blonde.

What makes cities like Toronto and San Fran suck is that there are not as many attractive white women available when the demand for them is high.

 

[DonGorgon]

same exact problem with Atlanta as far as shortages of females which ors them bad attitudes due to too many men pursuing them

 

[VikingKing]

I have a friend that moved to San Francisco about 8 months ago and he said he hates it there. Asked him why that was and he told me his entire story which I won't waste your time with. Simply put my friend was a private school kid that ended up moving there due to a good opportunity for his career. Like others I know in the city, the common complaints I hear are:

- ratios
- not that many attractive women
- terrible dating culture

When I did go to San Francisco, I noticed there were attractive women there. The catch is that there were not many attractive white women there. Having talked to my friend about it, he told me that the other reason he dislikes San Francisco is due to the lack of attractive women of his own race (white) and the few that are there he faces stiff competition than he would have back in his town in the midwest.

Then I looked at one of the things which makes Toronto terrible and guys said it was the lack of attractive white girls and the few that are there tend to have massive egos due to being pursued so much.

Is this the real reason those 2 cities have bad reputations?

Both of those cities are very liberal, and of course with liberalism comes feminism.

Dating feminist women is the equivalent of eating out of the dumpster, imo.

 

[apprenticedj]

Let me say this about San Francisco: it's MUCH less materialistic than other big cities and it's loaded with artsy hipsters. The kind of girls I've met there didn't give two sh*ts about a Mercedes or a Gucci purse, those girls live in LA. In SF you'll find hotties hanging out in dive bars playing shuffle board listening to some crazy cover band. Now don't get me wrong, SF has a financial district and it's own gold digger set but it's overall a city that values ACTUAL VALUE and not just FINANCIAL VALUE. I find that refreshing IMO.

 

[HowardHughesDicaprio]

same exact problem with Atlanta as far as shortages of females which ors them bad attitudes due to too many men pursuing them

Thanks to spending time in Atlanta I developed somewhat of a taste for black girls but almost all of them were light complexioned. Preference is still for middle eastern and white women though so Atlanta isn't my kind of city but if you like black girls, no city in the USA beats Atlanta.

It is one of the worst cities if you like White girls though. Most of the attractive white girls there will not touch a minority that looks foreign (read: not black or white) and tend to get married early. Stuck up 5s and 6s with massive egos because they are one of the very few white girls in a city of many.

Somehow I feel like any major city outside of NYC or Los Angeles is a terrible place to be if you want to game white girls. Their egos are massively inflated due to being in a diverse crowd where guys of all races hit on them and they are more sought after due to being so small in number. Somehow I feel like you are better off in a place like Idaho.

 

[VikingKing]

Let me say this about San Francisco: it's MUCH less materialistic than other big cities and it's loaded with artsy hipsters. The kind of girls I've met there didn't give two sh*ts about a Mercedes or a Gucci purse, those girls live in LA. In SF you'll find hotties hanging out in dive bars playing shuffle board listening to some crazy cover band. Now don't get me wrong, SF has a financial district and it's own gold digger set but it's overall a city that values ACTUAL VALUE and not just FINANCIAL VALUE. I find that refreshing IMO.

Interesting. But are the women their not heavily influenced by western feminism? I could understand they might not gold dig all that much, but still man don't they have a feminist attitude?

 

[HowardHughesDicaprio]

I wonder why we hate on feminism as much as we do since it is what has made it okay for women to sleep around if they please. That said, I found that San Francisco had a lack of attractive white girls when I went there and the few that were there were heavily guarded by circles of beta orbiters who made sure no one talked to them. I could see myself loving the city due to the sheer amounts of hot foreign girls there.

 

[The_411]

The issue with SF is that you need access. I've lived there and the most attractive women seemed to be hidden behind the rope so to speak. You either needed to have cash or know the right people.

The Marina/Cow Hollow seems to be the spot along with North Beach to find attractive caucasian women but as stated lots of them come with entitlement issues/princess issues.

A lot of it is knowing where to look.

 

[skinnyguy]

The issue with SF is that you need access. I've lived there and the most attractive women seemed to be hidden behind the rope so to speak. You either needed to have cash or know the right people.

The Marina/Cow Hollow seems to be the spot along with North Beach to find attractive caucasian women but as stated lots of them come with entitlement issues/princess issues.

A lot of it is knowing where to look.

Marina has tons of hotties but they won't look at you if you're not a hedge fund manager or white

 

[The_411]

Marina has tons of hotties but they won't look at you if you're not a hedge fund manager or white

I will not deny that your game needs to be tight if you do not fit in either the above categories.

However, that's the point. It makes it a real challenge and your game will improve so that you can pull those Marina girls without being a hedge fund manager. The white part no one can change but that adds to the challenge but also can give you an advantage with some of the women if you can play it right.

 

[skinnyguy]

Weren't that many hotties in Marina, its about average compared to the club scene in most cities. And "average" in SF means inflated ego.

Well it's good for SF. If you're comparing it to south beach then marina is trash.