"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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This sums up Sosuave (and every other community for that matter)

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In any community, you have a couple of superstars who actually know what they are talking about.

And then you have the legions of clueless losers giving worthless advice.

You have it at SoSuave, and you have it in the business community where people sell you ways to *get rich* when they have never done it themselves.

This clip pretty much sums up SoSuave - too many *Dr Tysons* who should not even be talking

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yjy_Xik5RU
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Agreed, some people here are so involuted by the material that you can separate those advice givers who are just reiterating the crap they read from books and those who are actually giving real world advice from their own experiences.
 

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Dude, everybody has a different piece of advice on this forum and that alone makes it great. And even if some people don't give the best advice for your situation at least you know that's something that you should not use.
 

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whats sums up sosuave is this

man up, dont waste time with anything called rapport, just go for it, if she rejects you (which she will because you skipped rapport stage) NEXT her, and move on. because, its a waste of time.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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RedZone said:
Dude, everybody has a different piece of advice on this forum and that alone makes it great. And even if some people don't give the best advice for your situation at least you know that's something that you should not use.
Now THAT, sums up SoSuave.
 

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The Mad Ghost said:
And then you have the complainers who complain about it without finding ways to fix it. If you don't like it, you can do what Backbreaker did, say nothing and LEAVE.
You don't fix it because you can't. It is systemic in any community.

The signal to noise ratio on most threads is very low.

FWIW: don't even bring up Backbreaker who was physically and verbally abused by his girl, and then he decided that the best way to maintain the frame was to *have makeup sex with her*

I seriously believe if people just read Pook (and the other top posters who were 3 SDs to the right of the bell-curve) that would cut down on almost all of the inane threads
 

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A pack of the blind leading the blind. That don't want to be helped. All the ones with good advice were either kicked off or left: Supreme, Pook
 

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Trader said:
You don't fix it because you can't. It is systemic in any community.

The signal to noise ratio on most threads is very low.

FWIW: don't even bring up Backbreaker who was physically and verbally abused by his girl, and then he decided that the best way to maintain the frame was to *have makeup sex with her*

I seriously believe if people just read Pook (and the other top posters who were 3 SDs to the right of the bell-curve) that would cut down on almost all of the inane threads
Backbreaker is fine. If a bunch of corny dudes on the internet wanna break his balls because making up with your wife is "against the DJ code", then they can go F themselves. Everyone here is "a man with a code" until they log off, go into the real world, and learn that everything isnt black or white. Lots of gray areas in real life vs. macho, alpha, sosuave life.


joe henny said:
A pack of the blind leading the blind. That don't want to be helped. All the ones with good advice were either kicked off or left: Supreme, Pook
If they got kicked off, then they were probably being D-bags anyway.
 

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If you don't like it, you can do what Backbreaker did, say nothing and LEAVE.
I think the reason Backbreaker left was that he felt betrayed by people who he considered his friends, who were telling him he was being owned by his
b!tch. I think he felt disrespected that they did not trust his reading and handling of the situation, and instead jumped on him like he was a newb.

Regarding the "makeup sex" he talked about, I don't believe he presented that as the solution to the problem. Really, there was no "solution" to his problem. His fiance made a mistake, he was either going to forgive her or not.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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zekko said:
I think the reason Backbreaker left was that he felt betrayed by people who he considered his friends, who were telling him he was being owned by his
b!tch. I think he felt disrespected that they did not trust his reading and handling of the situation, and instead jumped on him like he was a newb.

Regarding the "makeup sex" he talked about, I don't believe he presented that as the solution to the problem. Really, there was no "solution" to his problem. His fiance made a mistake, he was either going to forgive her or not.
Yep. It takes a lot to come on here and be truly honest about what's going on in your life. He did that.

Then he had a bunch of "alpha males" telling him that it was wrong to forgive his wife/fiance/whatever because she made one mistake. By the "DJ Book" it is an unforgivable sin....but the world doesn't work that way. In reality, none of these tough guys on here are gonna undo a 5-year relationship with a woman because she on one occasion hit you after she mistakenly thought you cheated on her

That's kind of the problem with the internet. The anonymity makes everyone want to come off as the flawless man. Clint Eastwood and s***.

If your wife bangs another dude, you leave her. No doubt. If your wife hits you because she thought you were banging someone else, then you live with it. Especially backbreaker. He's a smart dude and was a helpful resource here. You wont find many people as good at advice-giving as him. Always willing to help too. From newbies to old-timers.
 

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Thats why I got respect for backbreaker,

He was a man of his word. Instead of complaining, he left and had us asking if he was still in his original post. What an awesome exit. Also, Pook, became a legend of doing this also. They hit their goals, helped the underachievers and left. In som instances, I think this is how you should be with women in general.

Just up and leaving one day, without a word or reason.
 

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zekko said:
I think the reason Backbreaker left was that he felt betrayed by people who he considered his friends, who were telling him he was being owned by his
b!tch. I think he felt disrespected that they did not trust his reading and handling of the situation, and instead jumped on him like he was a newb.

Regarding the "makeup sex" he talked about, I don't believe he presented that as the solution to the problem. Really, there was no "solution" to his problem. His fiance made a mistake, he was either going to forgive her or not.
You guys need to understand. Backbreaker has left this site and come back 4-5 times just in the last few years. This is nothing new for him. Leaving this site wasn't worth our respect because the move is played out. Once ok, maybe twice, but not 4-5 times lol. He gets mad because he feels he is being picked on, settles down for a few months, then comes back like nothing happened. In case you haven't noticed, he's kind of a sensitive guy. :cry:
 

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Iceberg said:
Then he had a bunch of "alpha males" telling him that it was wrong to forgive his wife/fiance/whatever because she made one mistake.
Nobody said it was *wrong* to forgive his gf. But there are always consequences to your actions. Yes you can forgive someone but that doesn't mean you give them a free pass and completely avoid holding them accountable.

Iceberg said:
In reality, none of these tough guys on here are gonna undo a 5-year relationship with a woman because she on one occasion hit you after she mistakenly thought you cheated on her
But no one on here would have makeup sex as a way to resolve the issue. There is such a thing called self-respect. Do not bifurcate the issue, you can maintain your self-respect AND not leave her.

Iceberg said:
That's kind of the problem with the internet. The anonymity makes everyone want to come off as the flawless man. Clint Eastwood and s***.
I don't think so, I don't really think anyone cares about being *the man* on Sosuave (except for the egotistical maniacs), this is just a virtual world that disappears when you turn the computer off.
 

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Why is this even a topic? Do you want some kind of reward for your top notch analysis? If you really have this big of problem with the community then just leave.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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I don't even come here for advice mostly. I find that Roissy or Tyler Durden are way better for advice. I come here mostly to socialize, or to learn about the interesting viewpoints of people who have somewhat of a similar perspective.
 

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Trader said:
FWIW: don't even bring up Backbreaker who was physically and verbally abused by his girl, and then he decided that the best way to maintain the frame was to *have makeup sex with her*
There is something wrong with you.
Long live Backbreaker.
 

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DanelMadr said:
There is something wrong with you.
Long live Backbreaker.
I'll repeat this for the newbies here who haven't been around for years. Backbreaker has left this site and come back many many times over the years. It is always the same thing. He starts a thread, he gets mad when people disagree with him, says he's leaving the site for good, then shows up a few months later. He'll be back.

BTW, I like BB, but lets stop with the hero worship and the praising of the move he made when in reality, he just took his ball and went home. For the 5th time.
 

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cordoncordon said:
I'll repeat this for the newbies here who haven't been around for years. Backbreaker has left this site and come back many many times over the years. It is always the same thing. He starts a thread, he gets mad when people disagree with him, says he's leaving the site for good, then shows up a few months later. He'll be back.

BTW, I like BB, but lets stop with the hero worship and the praising of the move he made when in reality, he just took his ball and went home. For the 5th time.
I respect BB but it was not the point. I just wanted to point out for Trader that his frame is f@cked up. Not because of who he is criticizing but what he is criticizing. BB handling the situation (girl) in that matter was absolutely legimit and very mature as well as his departure be it for good or not. Let's hope not.
 

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Nice video OP. I enjoyed that! :D


The main problem isn't that theres alot of people giving different advice. The problem is how that advice is filtered through peoples minds. Thats because everyones goals are different and theres often conflict between the right thing to do and what somebody wants. For instance they're so afraid of losing a girl they bend over backwards to please her and that has the opposite effect they were looking for.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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