This stuff really works. Play the game and you WILL win.

[AMF]

Trust me.

Ive incorporated everything ive read here into my game.

The result is the HB9 of "my dreams" is mine, and there is not one shadow of doubt as to who has always been in control.

ME.

I have not had to set up a single date. Ive been more or less desireless, and it has drove her crazy.



Heres the best bit. She actually told me:

"If you had just come and made your move straight away [i.e., no game, guys] I would have been scared off, even though I like you. Doesnt matter whether us girls fancy you or not... if you "come running" or charge in [i.e., no game, guys] we will always lose interest because we wonder whats wrong with you. Youre so different to other guys."

Best of all, the lessons Ive learnbt here mean the game is now really part of me. I dont have to pretend to control my emotions, my behaviour leads my emotions so that they are ACTUALLY under control. Its really, really nice.

Now, I refuse to EVER give up this power. Its part of my identity.

Im posting this because theres been some anti-DJ skepticism cropping up from time to time. Sure, everyone has crises every now and then. Sometimes you HAVE to concentrate to keep your game on. But WITHOUT QUESTION, its essential.

NEVER REVERT TO BEING AN AFC.

Just a positive message.

 

[diablo]

Thank god. Finally something other than "i got dumped what can i do to get her back!!!". Good job.

 

[lizardfloyd]

I was just wondering. How can you be desireless towards a girl without lookin like you're too scared to talk to her or make a move on her? i mean i know its "being a challenge", becuz thats kinda what im doin now, not showing too much interest for a couple of girls im interested in.

Cuz im startin to wonder if i should be showing a little more interest or not, i just dont want them to think im too much of a pvssy to talk to them or make a move.

 

[AverageFC]

we will always lose interest because we wonder whats wrong with you

This is the female mindset that confuses me the most. Someone expresses interest in you, and you think they have a problem. wtf. If some hot chick told me she had an interest in me, I'd tihnk she had good taste.

 

[lizardfloyd]

Originally posted by AverageFC
This is the female mindset that confuses me the most. Someone expresses interest in you, and you think they have a problem. wtf. If some hot chick told me she had an interest in me, I'd tihnk she had good taste.

lol, right on man!!!

 

[Scrumtulescence]

I think the female mind just works on a different level of logic. Not necessarily illogical, just a different logic. Women want what they can't have, and if you practically give yourself away to her, you must not be worth much and not worth having.

stupid females...

 

[AverageFC]

Not necessarily illogical, just a different logic

No no scrumsters, I'm going with illogical.

 

[sapphire]

Those are females who lack self esteem.

The ones who have high self esteem and/or are confident will usually respond well to a guy who shows interest in a confident unneedy way.

 

[Jariel]

Congratulations AMF. I've also learnt something similar. I've had to adapt my game a lot to the woman I'm seeing, and it has been so tempting to give up and go totally AFC, but if I had I'd have lost already. I'm also keeping on top of my "game" it to keep things interesting and to get her wanting to see me as much as possible.

Relax, adapt, but never let that guard down.

 

[comote]

Whoa it's been awhile since I have been here. Great post. To clarify there is a major difference between expressing interest in a woman and coming on strong. Some guys can get away with coming on strong. I personally can not. I do better by hinting that I may be interested and making the girls work for the rest bit by bit.

If a girl is kind of interested in me. I express a bit of interest but never more than she has shown me. I do express enough to keep her coming back but if I express more than she has then game is over.

 

[AMF]

Originally posted by Jariel
Relax, adapt, but never let that guard down.

Heading towards the bible for me.

 

[Fatality]

Originally posted by AMF
Trust me.



"If you had just come and made your move straight away [i.e., no game, guys] I would have been scared off, even though I like you. Doesnt matter whether us girls fancy you or not... if you "come running" or charge in [i.e., no game, guys] we will always lose interest because we wonder whats wrong with you. Youre so different to other guys."

how did you go about doing this?

 

[wiggadude]

I'm confused. I'm trying to go up to girls in shopping centers and at the library, and basically chat them up, then get their number.

But that makes it obvious I'm interested. How can I do this without looking like I'm interested?? You seem to be saying that the key is to look disinterested, and not desperate or needy.

Confused.

 

[comote]

No the key is to look interested but not desperate or needy.

 

[MindOverMatter]

I'm happy for you, but the approach that worked with this girl may not work with others. Each girl is different, and some will not respond to DJ methods like this one has, and you will have to improvise. Just giving you a heads up. The methods in the DJ bible are great on some girls, on others they will cause a decline in interest level.

 

[Double J]

Originally posted by MindOverMatter
I'm happy for you, but the approach that worked with this girl may not work with others. Each girl is different, and some will not respond to DJ methods like this one has, and you will have to improvise. Just giving you a heads up. The methods in the DJ bible are great on some girls, on others they will cause a decline in interest level.

This is so true. I've employed some of the DJ methods with some girls, and it just isn't as effective. I think the more attractive and confident the girl is, the more you should use the DJ stuff. If it's the other way around, turn it down a few notches.

 

[LuisGarcia10]

Originally posted by lizardfloyd
I was just wondering. How can you be desireless towards a girl without lookin like you're too scared to talk to her or make a move on her? i mean i know its "being a challenge", becuz thats kinda what im doin now, not showing too much interest for a couple of girls im interested in.

It's about finding a balance really.

Don't ever give in to her, and I know it's difficult to say that.

I know a girl, easy a 9 or 10, who's really touchy when she speaks. Or at least she was before she got a boyfreind.

Anyway, point being that most guys melt when hot girls are touching them. The second you do that, the girl picks up on it like a piranah to blood. She knows she's in control, she knows you're somewhat fearful of her sexuality etc. From that moment on she knows she can manipulate you.

If, however, you touch her back and play her at her own game it does create that "I don't give a ****" sort of attitude. Although at first thought touching her back is surely a sign of your interest, when you think about it it's simply you saying, "I'm not intimidated by you and I'm perfectly happy for you to do that etc".

The above is obviously only one example of hundreds but I believe it can be applied to many other scenarios.

I've gone off topic a bit here but girls want to be excited.

Exciting does not equate to being scared of her touching you, that's wussy. Men are physically superior to women, they know this so when they see some big bloke scared of a pretty girl with a mini-skirt, they decide you're not worthy of her affections. And she's right as well.

 

[AMF]

Exactamundo, luis.

Im not of the conviction that girls consciously test men to see if their worthy. Rather they behave how they want to - with the confidence GIVEN TO THEM by the average, fawning guys who mostly populate this world - and see if you respond with as much, if not more confidence.

This HB9 I posted about keeps on offering up little gems of insight into how she and other HBs think, just due to my constant push/pull and tight-as-you-like game.


"I like the fact you put me in my place"


"I NEED to be put in my place"


Now... she meant "need" in a light-hearted way, as in to stop her getting carried away, but unconsciously it was "need" as in a basic, physical demand necessary for her to respect someone, and thus have ANY attraction for them whatsoever.

Now ive got this girl right where I want her, and am so in control of the situation that it extends to feeling in control of everything around me.

Yesterday, though, she almost threw me when we got onto attractiveness, a convo I maybe wanted to avoid. Dont get me wrong, Im a fairly attractive guy but this chick is flawless and has legions of male fans.

She put me under pressure by telling me:


"Im so, so selective. Until I met you I literally
didnt find any guy attractive for months. Seriously."


Now, this got me because it put me on a pedestal from which I might fall.

Did I blow it though? No, the convo moved on till I eventually built this little gem in:


"Well, when I saw you, I thought you were attractive
and all, but nothing really "grabbed me", you know?
Youre, uh, I guess not really my "type", usually
speaking. It was really your PERSONALITY that really
attracted me to you."


TOTAL BS! Complete and utter BS.

Shes gorgeous. But she knows it, thanks to hordes of pu*sy-as*ed AFCs, so it MY JOB as the player to diminish that particular weapon.

The best way? Pretend its SOMETHING ELSE that you like about her.

This does the following.

1) Its a slight neg, makes her doubt how hot she is, and question why YOU dont find her stunning.

2) Undermines a HB's chief weapon of pu*sification.

3) Makes you seem different and more discerning, more picky and like you MUST have had ultra-hot ladies in the past.

4) AND it still maintains that you DO still like her - just not too much.

Thats the game, gentlemen. Play it.

 

[AMF]

UPDATE - 8 months on.

Thanks to SoSuave, I killed my relationship.

 

[ksoileau]

oooooooookaaaaaaaaaay....

Originally posted by AMF
UPDATE - 8 months on.

Thanks to SoSuave, I killed my relationship.

Details?