"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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georgetheman

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Why is this site now filled with low quality men?

Several years ago this site focused on improving yourself, making yourself a better person and tips on getting a higher quality woman you can be happy with.

Its now full of whining, bitter, hate filled, overly harsh woman bashers. You are no better than women that hate on men so get over yourself.

A lot of the posts people place here are so unrational and yet they convince themselves they are...it kind of boggles my mind. I see alot of people have written there are no good women out there. There are...but the quality of good men nowadays is severely lacking too.

Im sure I will get creamed for stating this but it is an Internet forum and I think it needs to be said. This site needs to go back to the way it used to be. It used to be helpful. Now it fosters an environment of exploitative, entitled, hostile interaction that encourages each other to develop these negative traits more.

What you put out into the world comes back at you. Bashing women over everything will get you no where. I know several men will say they can bash women, be selfish and get everything they want...have yet to see an example of this in real life where it didnt bite them in the ass so good luck with that.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Down Low

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The men here are of low quality? Let's see. Didn't you just post about your low-quality hood-rat cvm dumpster? You even said that you don't want a virtuous woman, you want one who has been well trained by plenty of other men:

georgetheman said:
Women who are virgins at 25 usually are not good at sex and are conservative...have fun with a crappy sex life.
I don't care if you want to play Cap'n Save-a-ho. Live Free X has it nailed and you're just being too proud and conceited to shrug off his good advice.

BTW, I don't appreciate the insult that the current / newer members are all trash and some long ago and far away posters were the good ones. Play the hand you're dealt or cash in your chips.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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typical

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Well if we are so rubbish then why are you still here ? Please leave and don't let the door hit you on the way out.

I bet my bottom dollar that as soon as you commit 100% to her by living together or getting hitched after a few months/years she will suddenly have the urge to change her lifestyle.

You're quick to defend her but have you even run by the questions LiveFreeX threw at you in the other thread ?

Smart/Educated/Funny ? You do know these prerequisites are for a woman screening a man right not the other way around ? You need to screen a woman on her behavior, her truthfulness and her background because they all hold telltale signs of what sort of person you're dealing with.

Bad part of town and getting raped .... twice send my bullsh!t rader off. Girls from the so called bad part of town learn to look after themselves at a very early age and only the most at risk girls get into gangs or get raped. Yes some do have their heads screwed on right but even then they don't make good wife's/mothers due to their inherent "men are a$$holes" view which comes from being around a neighborhood filled with lowlife thugs.

Back to that bit about her being smart/educated and funny .......... mate what about her cooking/cleaning and child bearing/rearing abilities ? Can she cook a few decent meals ? Can she clean up after herself and get ready for a night out with you without you having to wait for an extra hour or three ? Can she look after kids with a smile on her face instead of the "eww gross kids" attitude most women under 30 show ?

So many questions and all you have come up with is the same lines feminazi's have been throwing at us for years.

EDIT: From the way both of your threads are worded it seems that if you two do tie the knot it will be you that will be doing the woman's job and she the mans.
 

3countriesPlan

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looks like you joined in 2012, oh and this month too so Im sure you know alot about how it used to be.. social media has adversely affected game and people are also making the mistake of spitting at girls OUTSIDE THEIR MARKET. Ex: do Mexican girls sweat you while Czech girls hate you? Solution: spit at more Mexican girls. the end.
 
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