This site is bad for most of us

[Production6257]

I haven't been on this site for a few weeks, mostly due to the fact that it has begun to annoy the hell out of me. I look around, and all I see are these stupid tecniques and "theories" that aren't being used by anybody. It is the nerdiest thing; there's all these abbreviations (LTR, HB7, FR, PUA, AFC, and what seems like hundreds of others), and EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT THEY MEAN!!! It's like some kind of joke or something. And I'm not excluding myself from this group at all, because I also believed everything that I read. I bought that stupid David Deangelo book. I know what those stupid abbreviations stand for. This site has took all of the fun out of being social and turned it into a job of trying to score points by being "****y and funny" and all that crap. Why can't we just be ourselves? How about just going out to a party to have a good time, instead of constantly perusing the crowd for the next "HB" that you can try your ridiculous internet DJ tactics? Maybe instead of being human boners all the time, we can just talk to a girl for the sake of getting to know her and meeting a new person. It's just so dumb, and I know personally, it really got into my head to the point where instead of having fun, I'm worried about what smooth thing to say next, and of course it always comes across as a scripted, doosh-bag pick-up attempt.

 

[Nighthawk]

Sorry you misunderstood the point of the site. Good luck with that bold new 'being yourself' approach.

 

[dot]

ya the second u start just going out there and getting experience, you've learned more than this site can tell you.

 

[Faded Image]

Don't read into to much. If you think this place is going to give you a diploma that reads "This is to certify that hammahamma has sucessfully completed all course requirements and therfore certified as a True Don Juan" then you have another thought coming.

You can read the information here as a reference point but you can only develope you game based off what works for you when you're actually out and about.

Try this
Next time you go out, go out to have fun as a priority and meeting women as if it's to happen then it happens and if it doesn't oh well. When you go with the intention to meet women it causes a lot of undue stress which will only lead you to fold if you're inexperienced.

With that being said, go out and have fun and this place should be the last thing on you mind when you're out cause we can't help you when you're not at your computer.

 

[SharinganUser]

Why can't we just be ourselves? How about just going out to a party to have a good time, instead of constantly perusing the crowd for the next "HB" that you can try your ridiculous internet DJ tactics?

Dude that is the WHOLE point of this site. Once again I am going to have to quote my fav character from my fav movie. The Tao of Steve

Dex: You think it's more honest to pretend to listen to a woman when you're just thinking about getting laid.
Dave: I think it's more honest than pretending I don't wanna get laid, ya know?
Dex: That's the whole point. Don't pretend, man. Just really let go of your desire.

Dex: The Tao of Steve isn't about picking up lots of women. It's about being the best person you can be, and I'm not.

 

[[R]eality]

always comes across as a scripted, doosh-bag pick-up attempt.

Yeah it's true, bro, I just go and have fun. Look at my case in point: I had -some- doubt about -some- kinds of girls and I read this site and for a while turned into this abrasive-ass ******* that no one wanted to be with.

People are obsessed with not being nice.. that's not the problem.. I'm nice.. I'm also secure in myself, and that 'self' is fun, smart, sexual, and playful.

Compare that with someone trying to make a pun and joke off of everything and acts aloof? It's SO obvious from the side, people.

EDIT:
Oh, and when I go out, I can and do pull (physically) about half the girls at least and french kiss then and talk to them and hug them and they are happy and normal, and it isn't because I'm running a scripted acronym ticker in my mind, it's because I'm - gasp, shock - myself.

 

[DarkLight]

People make this shyt more complicated than it really is.

Yop!
As well as taking this side of the coin way too seriously.
Who gives a fvck about all the acronyms... THERE FVCKIN ACRONYMS!
(created for ease of use... like L.A., or NYC)

Don't get so involved w. the mathematics of attraction.
Let it be a feeling thing, where understanding is key.
Personally... I just dip by, cause I'm extremely fascinated w. human dynamics.
Patterns and reactions of human relations. Whatever they be.

Your passion is commendable, but don't you think your being a little off-balance!? Why let some acronyms, and people breaking down the psychology of things sway you so hard!?

Read the great articles here, for understanding and growth.
Forget the canned sh!t, forget the formulas.
This site is about becoming a better you. Someone that can go out, and naturally enjoy himself, succesfully charming others through his own inner rewards. Not applying some systematic logical formula to the capitalize on the free beauty of everyday "being."

So relax Ace... and use everything in the way, that you want to use it.
This site included.

Peace'

 

[nvictor]

Hammahamma,

One thing. Those abbreviations comes from PUA workshops. It is not a creation of this site. You see when professionals as Ross Jeffries, Mystery or David DeAngelo are sarging (teaching to pick up) with their students. It's important that they stay with them to watch them. Imagine them giving advice in natural language: everybody will know their intention. It's better to say "N-close her now", "Use the Cs routine".

Hope you see what I mean. Don't despair men, the accronym list musn't scares you. It's a language you speak with your siblings. It makes you recognise them in the street.

Now, for the person that say "People make this shyt more complicated than it really is." Don't you see that things have changed a lot??

 

[comic_relief]

Don't read into to much. If you think this place is going to give you a diploma that reads "This is to certify that hammahamma has sucessfully completed all course requirements and therfore certified as a True Don Juan" then you have another thought coming.

Really? I got mine last week. Hmmm...

The entire point of this site is just to self-improve yourself to you being your best self. Then you pull girls as a nasty side effect. Please don't misrepresent the site.

I use no routines or techniques in my game from this site. I just go out and have a good time. Girls just show up. The one thing that this site did make me was much much MUCH more social.

Hell, last night I was at a grad students only party and had a blast. I'm only a freshman.

comic_relief

 

[MAVER1CK]

WoW your a douche.

Let me guess, you are going to start up a new WoW char now that you couldnt get ass in the real world.

 

[Chase12]

i agree

getting too involved with these terms wil turn u into a sosuave robot...instaed of seeing girls as girls.. u see them as "cold aproach targets"..

wtf

IMO you should jsut take what its usefull from this site.. I myself thought i had to be "nice" to get girls.. i never got ass all those 2 years i thought that way.. i was shocked when i read that jerk vs nice guy thing

forget all the canned ****.. "should i neg hit her now?" "should i use C+F now?"

just be yourself.. of course if that self is some nerdy kid who plays WoW all day long and jacks off to hentai porn ur not getting n e ass

 

[Kev07]

at the very least, this site helps boost self confidence.

and some advice that is helpful would be kino, keep good confidence.


take the attitude and personality advice seriously, while the tips on what to do in each situation should just be in the back of your head so that when you don't know what else you can do, you can give it a shot.

 

[squirrels]

What this site needs is some mods who can distinguish between honest advice and intellectual masturbation.

Honestly, they either don't know or just don't care. A lot of people are becoming disenchanted with SoSuave because it's becoming just another layer of control.

The reason that "this system" appears to work is because in the transition between systems, there is some time spent working OUTSIDE the bounds of ANY system, in the realm of POSSIBILITY. At this point, one system is breaking down but the other has not yet manifested itself, so there ARE no bounds.

The problem is that a lot of the people on the forum (myself included to an extent) still feel uncomfortable being in control of their own lives to some extent or other. So they take the system that broke down the "Traditional Universe" and start building the "SoSuave Universe" to govern their lives.

But this universe doesn't work either. It's another system of rules. All it represents is boundaries and a value system, a means of communicating with others concepts that they REALLY should be experiencing for themselves.

People here are too concerned about forming themselves into the perfect image of "Don Juan", when in reality, the real Don Juan is formless...and as such, can materialize in any frame at any time at his choosing. The non-juan becomes trapped by his own rules. He sets up an elaborate system to govern his interactions with women but soon finds himself up against a wall of his own making when the woman goes somewhere his "DJ system" will not allow him to follow.

When you own something, it ends up owning you. When you make the "DJ system" into "YOUR system", you become a victim of it. When you try to "get" a woman, to possess her, to hold on to her, to keep her...she possesses you. Womanizing becomes the focus of your life. When you say, "I am not good with the ladies", even in trying to find out how to become better, failure with the ladies becomes a part of your identity.

To act without laying claim is the true essence of Tao, according to Lao Tzu.

We all waste too much energy on trying to define who we are. The truth is to define who we are, we must first figure out why the question is being asked. And to know that, we need to know who is asking the question. As a result, the question has no answer...or rather, it has no ONE answer. All we know is that it is a member of the set of infinite possibilities, any one of which would answer the circular equation. It's like saying "x=x. Solve for x." Any solution works. Stop looking for other equations...there are none. Stop making them up...they only limit you. Just be whichever "x" you like being the most at this instant in time. Everything else will follow.

 

[mrRuckus]

It is the nerdiest thing; there's all these abbreviations (LTR, HB7, FR, PUA, AFC, and what seems like hundreds of others),

Yeah and in the NFL the QB sometimes throws INTs to the CB that is returned for a TD. Pick six. Then they try for a PAT.

AND EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT IT MEANS!

What a bunch of nerds.

 

[Demon]

This site is bad for most of us.

What's bad for you is good for me.

 

[mrRuckus]

People here are too concerned about forming themselves into the perfect image of "Don Juan", when in reality, the real Don Juan is formless...and as such, can materialize in any frame at any time at his choosing. The non-juan becomes trapped by his own rules. He sets up an elaborate system to govern his interactions with women but soon finds himself up against a wall of his own making when the woman goes somewhere his "DJ system" will not allow him to follow.

When you own something, it ends up owning you. When you make the "DJ system" into "YOUR system", you become a victim of it. When you try to "get" a woman, to possess her, to hold on to her, to keep her...she possesses you. Womanizing becomes the focus of your life. When you say, "I am not good with the ladies", even in trying to find out how to become better, failure with the ladies becomes a part of your identity.

um.

what?


i forgive you.

 

[ElChoclo]

Well, I don't want to be around when someone breaks this news to Luke Skywalker. First its "There's no Easter Bunny, then "There's no Santa" and now it's "PUA techniques are no good".

 

[aelux]

That's like saying physics is retarded because it's all common sense.

 

[logicallefty]

Soon as Cosmo Mag quits printing advice to women about men, then I say it's time to shut this site down and call it a day...

Until then, here I am! :moon:

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Soon as Cosmo Mag quits printing advice to women about men, then I say it's time to shut this site down and call it a day...

Until then, here I am! :moon:

Well put.