This place has gone to shyt

[Clockwerk50]

Essentially, this is a young man's job that requires a constant inflow of younger men to maintain. At some point, men acquire enough experience and start pursuing over priorities. The lack of young ambitious men is the result of red & black pill telling them to spend their free time on 3 hour live streams crying about women instead of them getting their feet dirty in the field. I also don't want to hear about any FEMINIST Boogeyman because feminism has always been around including the PUA peak period.

I think the issue isn’t necessarily the content or the advice on “dating”; it’s the medium itself. Forums might just be outdated. The newer generation is more likely to flock to places like Reddit, YouTube comments, or Discord. But it’s important to remember that these platforms are corporate entities, driven by agendas, shareholders, and algorithms. They decide which narratives get boosted whether through real users, bots, or subtle manipulation. Welcome to the information wars.

On a side note, I wonder if this place would evolve into something better if more people came here genuinely seeking help. It often starts with someone struggling with oneitis, clinging to the idea that a specific woman is “the one.” There’s even a pattern, usually after summer, where situationships fall apart, and a wave of heartbroken men show up looking for answers. That’s when these spaces become most valuable.

 

[Clockwerk50]

Back in the day, the guys got along. They would encourage each other and joke around. The camaraderie was excellent. There was a sense of “being on the same team” no matter what the guy’s level or situation.

Today, it’s more cliquey than junior high lol.

It is because of the different ideologies in this place. Some argue it might be good or bad, but it’s usually people analyzing the men, the women, the environment, and contriving a conclusion that it is positive, neutral, or negative. It’s hard to move forward when there are so many factors and deviations on what “success” is and how to “win” at the game of dating. And when there’s no shared vision of what “success” looks like or how to “win” at the dating game, it becomes hard to move forward as a group.

 

[Bible_Belt]

These perceptions have always existed though. Feminism existed the same time Roush V, Pook, Mystery, and etc were playing the field. I was out in the field during Obama and Biden's terms with no issues lol.

It's technology that has evolved, and the ability to collectively organize and complain through social media. To quote my favorite dog trainer, "The problem with society today is that too many people who don't know what they are talking about have too much of a voice."

 

[Roober]

I believe it’s also a byproduct of online communities becoming more popular, meaning there are just a lot more options now…

For example, I’m currently in…
- Relationship based community
- Business network
- Local Men’s group
- Marketing networking group

Then you have church groups, masculinity groups and so much more.

What ends up happening is the high level people go more for paid groups whereas people who haven’t quite hit their stride yet rely on the FREE locations (e.g. this site)

 

[DJ Novice]

As an older guy (58) I still find this board offers useful advice and I’d like to think I can offer some as well.

The Mature Man channel on this board is there for a reason and where I spend most of my time. Dating when you’re in your 50s after being through the meat grinder of divorce, having adult kids, experiencing dwindling testosterone levels, eying retirement and valuing your independence, a low stress lifestyle and peace is a far different proposition to being in your mid 20s.

I have experimented with spinning plates. However unless the girl has genuine burning desire as represented by her enthusiasm in and prioritisation of bedroom activities over time (not just in the beginning) and she offers value to my life other than what’s between her legs, I don’t have the tolerance or patience anymore to go through all the b*llsh*t to be with them just for the s*x. Plus the logistics are exhausting.

I did have a Chinese plate but dropped her when I went over to her place and all she did was watch a movie (in bed naked) for 2 hours and then go to sleep (‘I’m tired’) despite my attempts to initiate. Next morning she didn’t initiate anything and half heartedly responded when I put the moves on. I just lost all interest (previously she was always up for bedroom activities when I came over).

I’m now also finding that if I get my balls emptied a couple of times a week to my satisfaction by main girlfriend, she cooks great meals for me, is very caring and affectionate and is not a pain the ass to be around (which is my current situation), my desire to pursue other plates just isn’t as strong anymore.

It’s normal for guys to come and go here once they find a LTR and then maybe return if that doesn’t work out.

I like the banter and some guys do need some tough advice but it would be good if we could be more supportive to each other at times rather than getting sucked into petty arguments.

The dating market at any age is a lot tougher than what it used to be and it will continue to evolve. What worked previously may or may not work now but it’s still good to get different perspectives.

It is good to have some female contributors but they need to understand that dating for women who are vaguely attractive is on easy mode and they will rarely suffer rejection like most guys on here do unless they are only interested in 9-10/10 guys.

 

[plumber]

Low-T is part of it, but I would say the combination of obesification, single-mommies & hypergamy have just made "the juice not worth the squeeze" anymore. I mean, what do men want? A trim, childless woman that would take him.

low t and or high e, is 75%+ , only the men that have solved it know. the others deny as it sounds like an attack on them. its not an attack its a map of how to grow... really fast. its not just about how much energy or libido, its about how the man thinks at a deep level.

 

[Divorced w 3]

It's technology that has evolved, and the ability to collectively organize and complain through social media. To quote my favorite dog trainer, "The problem with society today is that too many people who don't know what they are talking about have too much of a voice."

Social media has become the end to its own means. People burn out on the falsity of the pulp being cultivated on social media. Those looking for real solutions are turning more than ever to established mediums such as this, with real community and time tested advice.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Those looking for real solutions are turning more than ever to established mediums such as this, with real community and time tested advice.

Exactly.... Those who aren't content with being Kool Aid drinkers find forums like SS

 

[JustDoItAlways2]

I joined this forum in the year 2002. It is still just as good although there are fewer posters now.

 

[BaronOfHair]

I joined this forum in the year 2002

Yet you're still a "new member"...

 

[Murk]

I have no idea what you mean (first time logging in 5 months), but ultimately you take what you need and discard the rest, I thought I told you this already. Give advice, receive advice, hopefully be clued up enough to decipher the gems of knowledge.

Ultimately, if you don't possess innate knowledge of life and a clear perception of reality, you will eventually become someone's sucker. Step your mind game up.

 

[Von]

Recycled and overstated post since 2000.

I only clicked to see Who are the old timers still around.

Glad to see a few recognizable names.

This site saved my life by being a Community, i could chat with, Read, LEARN, with my désire of self improvement turned into action with alot of introspection.

I am a 10 years old vet and still Remember the reaction people had to my first post...spoiler: they were harsh. Now, wife and kids.

If i can make IT, you can!

Ironic how "red Pill" is mainstream now yet no one sees the djbible stuff

 

[BaronOfHair]

Ironic how "red Pill" is mainstream now yet no one sees the djbible stuff

Slathering these subjects in buzzwords and jargon has been a near-fatal error

 

[Divorced w 3]

I have no idea what you mean (first time logging in 5 months), but ultimately you take what you need and discard the rest, I thought I told you this already. Give advice, receive advice, hopefully be clued up enough to decipher the gems of knowledge.

Ultimately, if you don't possess innate knowledge of life and a clear perception of reality, you will eventually become someone's sucker. Step your mind game up.

Hey papa bear. How is your family

 

[tksniper]

I would say the current generation of women dont really inspire men to be don juans anymore. We live in an interdependent reality and women have for long yearned for independence that they forgot society needs men to be brilliant and inspired in order for it to function. In an effort to be independent, women have lost their ability to be interdependent. This is ironic because it used to be a natural strength of women.

Social media is a weapon that causes more disconnect.

People may say this forum has gone to sh1t. But isnt this forum just a reflection of society?

Has this forum gone to sh1t or has society gone to sh1t?

Current American society is like a chicken with its head cut off.

The average guy simply doesnt have many incentive to become some "Don Juan.". Its like winning a game where the prize is a loaf of bread.

 

[tksniper]

The "brilliance" is still here as untapped potential. Ignore all the "Men are are just low T pvssys threads. The truth is The WOMEN are not as inspiring.

The brilliance of men have shaped the entire word ad infinitum. Since time memorial. Since the beginning of time. But we always had a dance partner.

But it is today that the majority of women in America insist they do it by themsleves.

This is anti-life, and thus our current society. Pook warned against this with all of his posts against radical feminism.

 

[Prepostereax]

this bit needs to be stickied, posterised, shouted from the rooftops:

We live in an interdependent reality and women have for long yearned for independence that they forgot society needs men to be brilliant and inspired in order for it to function. In an effort to be independent, women have lost their ability to be interdependent. This is ironic because it used to be a natural strength of women.

When you find yourself a fine woman who moves in tandem with her man, supporting him in what he does, and retains her own femininity, it's like finding a goddam unicorn

The brilliance of men have shaped the entire word ad infinitum. Since time memorial. Since the beginning of time. But we always had a dance partner.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Fresh and Fit- Hours long of bitching and moaning.

Rich Cooper bitching and moaning.

Fixed.

 

[Clockwerk50]

Fixed.

They are the flag bearers of toxic masculinity. I’ve encountered more than one person with this ideology and could write an essay on their patterns of self-victimization and manipulation. I understand that a man’s fears and insecurities often center on his sense of masculinity. Sometimes men tend to feel threatened by a woman who is overtly manipulative or too controlling. Yet, some people exploit these fears for profit.

 

[Manure Spherian]

They are the flag bearers of toxic masculinity. I’ve encountered more than one person with this ideology and could write an essay on their patterns of self-victimization and manipulation. I understand that a man’s fears and insecurities often center on his sense of masculinity. Sometimes men tend to feel threatened by a woman who is overtly manipulative or too controlling. Yet, some people exploit these fears for profit.

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I saw that post by Cooper. With all his bitching, I wonder why he exhorts men to deal with women at all. Same goes for all the other modern RP fvcknuts!

They also don’t actually want women to have something to offer besides sex, which is why if he pushed purchasing for sex, he’d be consistent. Oh wait, then men wouldn’t be getting GBD.

Two to three hour podcasts bitching about what women while selling how to get them.

One more thing; men aren’t “approaching” women not because of supposed decreases in T, but because couples rarely form from approaches! At least the woman worshipper Michael Sartain gets that right.