This place has gone to shyt

[Solomon]

The forum has been on a steady decline ffor awhile, the last great or decent year in sosauve was 2012 in my opinion.
2000-2005 were the Golden Years 2005-2009 Siliver years and 2009-2012 The bronze years. We are now about to enter the "AI" era I would be shocked if this forum is still around 10 years from now, because by that time most men will opt out of the game complitley who can't get what they want or just settle for a "AI" girlfriend.

Yes dating was different however I would say up until 2012 guys were posting things constantly to adapt to the changes. Around 2013-2015 it changed to what we know it now.
In my early days, you had a lot of guys that knew their stuff but were not just philosophers but intellectuals.
You also had guys who would post field reports, breaking things down not just with interactions, you had one guy who would post videos and audio. I myself use to post FR's with pictures in them, back when I was younger. It was time where guys motivated each other and encouraged each other to be better not just with women but with life in general! Nowadays the bar on the forum is so low that guys are just happy to get sex lmfaooo. Some of us have moved on and actually been in LTR's, spun mutlipile plates some of us got married because eventually you realize that there is more to life than sex.

The problem is the newer generation doesn't have the hunger to succeed, nor the tenacity to make it so you see guys say the same repetitive stuff like LMS. or the same whiny posts about feminism.
Back in the day guys would actually meet other guys in their city and hit the field. You had to earn your stripes with the content you posted
by bringing something different or someone who met you who could vouch for your game. Nowadays, you don't have that. So now you have an echo chamber of the same crap LMS, LMS, 80% of women chasing the top 20% blah blah blah. It's just boring drivel. When someone like Amsterdam for example comes in and challenges the status quo they are deemed a liar or a fraud. The guy was posting receipts I respect that cause that's how I use to do it when I first came with my field reports. You can also tell a lot of guys are stuck in limited beliefs due to their lack of success so they don't understand nuance, hence the blackpill guys have become so popular. Guys used to strive to be the best version of their ideal self now everyone wants to whine. If you think dating sucks and is hard now, boy oh boy you have no idea what will be coming down the pike within the next 10 years because it's about to get a whole lot worse for you if you're struggling now.

People move on in life. I post is when I'm bored and also this place reminds me of a time where I really saw what hard work, effort and belief in yoruself can do when you put the work in! this might be last year posting as the mindset from most forum members doesn't resonate with me. I was a broke 24 year old working 2 jobs 70 hours a week and still hit the field every weekend like a mad man. Now I'm older and my focus is to be a multi-millionaire by this time next year.

 

[Solomon]

Fingz had a spinoff forum for a while, next level game. I was a mod. He got in a relationship and pulled the plug on the site in about 2009. That may have been the peak, or a little before.

Man I learned so much from Fingz and a lot of my game was inspired by him Snowploman because their style was very similar to mine i.e. high energy, flirty, fun etc. Especially when I was younger

I kept my FR Journal there cause you had to sign up to be able to see the forum. I was able to gather all my FR's and I published a free e-book of my FR's back in 2014. I have since taken it down because it had pictures in it that could not just compromise me but the girls as well.

The era of FR's been dead I still journal my dates but I keep it private and would recommend anyone to do so, unless you have questions or want feedback but nowadays with how social media is. Your post could go viral on X or Tik Tok and ruin your life so I totally get why guys don't post FR's anymore

I don't think the era of the early 2000s will ever come back, with AI girlfriends now and AI robots coming within the next decade and half. Things are about to go from bad to worse. I remember in 2010 on a date with a pretty blonde asking her about feminism, she had no clue WTF I was talking about. Fast forward every other chick now wants to talk about Gender identity politics on the first date, is hardcore leftist feminist, even pretty ones etc. It's crazy to me how much things changed so frigging quickly!

To see the change in real time is mind-blowing to me. So to see what's coming next (AI, inflation, decline of the $$$, etc) is even more worrying. 2009 was during th recession but what's coming next a lot of guys aint' ready for. I truly feel sorry for young men who are not prepared because 5 years from now, women ain't going to be what you worried about you're going to be worried about. Being able to live, food and buying XRP if you don't have it right now.

 

[SW15]

the blackpill guys have become so popular.

The black pill ideology has been growing faster than the red pill for about the last 10 years at this point.

 

[The Duke]

Been here since 2008 and the traffic and quality of posters has gone down hill the last 7-8yrs. Its really not much different than society.

This place reminds me of the kid that watches a youtube video on how to change the oil on his car, has never actually done it but, now thinks he is a mechanic. There seems to be a lot of pseudo-experts in society these days with little to back it up with but their imagination.

Nowdays nobody wants to put the work in. They want the quick fix. They aren't willing to change and improve. The current generation struggles with constructive criticism more than any other generation before. Add all of this together and you get what we have today... too many weak men. Its no surprise.

Need more guys like @BPH. He goes out, does his thing, has a good time, gets girls, learns from every interaction, and posts about it. He has figured out how to make it work on a low budget and not having his own place.

I do thank the moderators for finally driving out most of the incel posters. However, you guys let that go on too long.

ps. Since we are on the topic of making this place better, @corrector posting his AI chatbot dialogue needs shut down before that becomes a habit and attracts others that do the same thing.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Need more guys like @BPH. He goes out, does his thing, has a good time, gets girls, learns from every interaction, and posts about it. He has figured out how to make it work on a low budget and not having his own place.

Essentially, this is a young man's job that requires a constant inflow of younger men to maintain. At some point, men acquire enough experience and start pursuing over priorities. The lack of young ambitious men is the result of red & black pill telling them to spend their free time on 3 hour live streams crying about women instead of them getting their feet dirty in the field. I also don't want to hear about any FEMINIST Boogeyman because feminism has always been around including the PUA peak period.

 

[BadBoy89]

Nobody is stopping you from making a field report.

I've never seen a field report from you. Only theory threads.

Nobody is forcing you to make theory threads.

 

[typical]

I've never seen a field report from you. Only theory threads.

Nobody is forcing you to make theory threads.

I don't think I ever made a FR if I'm honest. But then again I've always been wary of someone being able to work out who I am in real life so I've tried to keep away from posting things that might get me into any sort of legal trouble etc.

Regardless of a person being blue/purple/red/black pilled, what I've seen is having an opinion on this matter always carries a negative stigma and if you're in the corporate world it's better to blend in with the sheep then publicly state your true redpill thoughts. Also the less likely that someone disgruntled tries to ruin your reputation with a FR on one of the many websites like this then even better.

I don't believe that the theory will evolve much just new techniques needed for a more tech centric world.

Still at 41 years old being "That" guy that's in incredibly good shape that owns his own house and business does set one apart from many others. I have a few good plates in rotation at the moment with one pushing to become live in gf.

I am getting older and I am getting caught up in thoughts of wanting to "Settle down and have a family". I think my traditional upbringing is finally having an effect on me.

I might just do that BUT will be planning it with minute details with a few offshore escape funds ready if things go sour.

At the end of the day it's "Just Money" I built myself once before and if I am unfortunate to get burned I'll rebuild again.

It's 4 am here and the bottom line is "Life is to be lived and experienced" all the theory and FRs won't change that fact, what are we going to do rehash the same ideas and reports for a new generation ??? If the new generation can't be stuffed then oh well their loss !!!

All the information is here for them to utilise, they just need to read it. And the formula is very simple to be frank. It's just build your body, your life, and play this game of life as you feel is best for you. The rest is just noise.

 

[CornbreadFed]

I've never seen a field report from you. Only theory threads.

Nobody is forcing you to make theory threads.

Because I have a high satisfactory lay count, in a LTR, and working on building my company right now. I have zero business making field reports due to my current situation. Since you are MR. Badboy that only slays 10s at ease, how about you make your field report and enlighten this forum. Not everyone on this forum is chasing the same thing.

 

[BadBoy89]

Because I have a high satisfactory lay count, in a LTR, and working on building my company right now.

No proof of this. You are deluding yourself to make yourself feel better.

Whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.

I have zero business making field reports due to my current situation.

Yet you have tons of business making theory threads due to your current situation.

 

[CornbreadFed]

No proof of this. You are deluding yourself to make yourself feel better.

Whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.

Just trying to grow and thrive

Yet you have tons of business making theory threads due to your current situation.

Again, nobody on this forum is stopping you from making field report topics.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Some of there posts are just as relevant today as it was back then.

The fundamentals of human psychology remain constant

 

[BadBoy89]

Again, nobody on this forum is stopping you from making field report topics.

You are right.

And nobody on this forum is forcing you to make theory report topics.

 

[CornbreadFed]

You are right.

And nobody on this forum is forcing you to make theory report topics.

Name one reputable red pill icon out here making cold approaches and showing receipts right now?

The Rational Male- Hours long streams about theory

Alpha Male Strategies- Theory

Fresh and Fit- Hours long streams about Theory

Rich Cooper- Theory

Hamza- Theory

CoachGregAdams- Hours long streams about Theory

Instead of crashing out on me, maybe you should be more critical of your own club about theory vs field reports.

 

[zekko]

One thing I like about the forum today versus in the past is that there is a wider variety of viewpoints presented. True, some of them may be negative or unhelpful, but in the old days things used to be very much one size fits all. Which I always thought was a little too narrow.

 

[The Duke]

Corn & BadBoy - no need to derail the topic. Send each other a private message if you want to debate whose cahk is biggest.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Corn & BadBoy - no need to derail the topic. Send each other a private message if you want to debate whose cahk is biggest.

Second that

Let’s air out ideas in a productive way, not a negative way which is a big part of what’s gone so wrong here recently

It won’t change overnight but let’s work to keep it positive

 

[Bible_Belt]

Name one reputable red pill icon out here making cold approaches

Because they don't want to get arrested. Trying to talk to a woman who isn't interested makes you a rapist, at least in modern perceptions.

 

[MatureDJ]

1). Younger men are opting out of dating. I brought up the fact that you see less novice dating advice being requested by men. Less new traffic means more stagnation.

It's OVER for StagnationCels.

 

[MatureDJ]

Low Testosterone is the overriding issue. Testosterone controls behavior far more than people realize.

Low-T is part of it, but I would say the combination of obesification, single-mommies & hypergamy have just made "the juice not worth the squeeze" anymore. I mean, what do men want? A trim, childless woman that would take him.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Because they don't want to get arrested. Trying to talk to a woman who isn't interested makes you a rapist, at least in modern perceptions.

These perceptions have always existed though. Feminism existed the same time Roush V, Pook, Mystery, and etc were playing the field. I was out in the field during Obama and Biden's terms with no issues lol.