"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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This is why women ignore you on Tinder

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My friend was trying to show me a weird message she got on Tinder and while she was trying to find it. I noticed she had hundreds of matches. I mean she was drowning in them.

I told her and she was like "Oh, yeah. I get like one match for every three swipes."

Just crazy. The good thing was that 98% of her matches were beta idiots sending her openers like hi, whats up? how's your day? omg you're beautiful. so sexy or some other lame comment about her body.

Smh. Zero creativity.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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StevieO said:
Zero creativity.
If you're handsome you don't need creativity. iI send the same message to every girl I match with and my response rate is ~90%
 

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StevieO said:
My friend was trying to show me a weird message she got on Tinder and while she was trying to find it. I noticed she had hundreds of matches. I mean she was drowning in them.

I told her and she was like "Oh, yeah. I get like one match for every three swipes."

Just crazy. The good thing was that 98% of her matches were beta idiots sending her openers like hi, whats up? how's your day? omg you're beautiful. so sexy or some other lame comment about her body.

Smh. Zero creativity.
It doesn't matter. Since most of those same dudes are swiping 100 other chicks besides your friend so why should anyone care about "creativity" on an almost 100% looks based app? If she doesn't respond another chick or chick's will. It's a known AWing app. No one cares to bother putting in effort for that since there's much more important things to put effort into in life besides dopey broads on an AW catalog.

I don't think these chick's realize that or probably don't care as they're looking for the hottest dudes themselves and could care less if at that point the dude just says: what's up?
 

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J Roc said:
If you're handsome you don't need creativity. iI send the same message to every girl I match with and my response rate is ~90%
Yup. Tinder is mostly look based so if you're highly attractive, you can say the stupidest thing and she will still laugh and agree like it's the smartest thing in the world. All she cares about is that she wants to f**k you.
 

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StevieO said:
My friend was trying to show me a weird message she got on Tinder and while she was trying to find it. I noticed she had hundreds of matches. I mean she was drowning in them.

I told her and she was like "Oh, yeah. I get like one match for every three swipes."

Just crazy. The good thing was that 98% of her matches were beta idiots sending her openers like hi, whats up? how's your day? omg you're beautiful. so sexy or some other lame comment about her body.

Smh. Zero creativity.
That doesn't make any sense. If you swipe right to a girl they don't have a clue that you did. The only way they find out is if they're busy swiping and happen to swipe right on you as well and then you see it's a match. Sounds like she swipes right to every guy on the thing and they just so happened to have swiped right on her too. Sounds like she's trying to get as many matches as she can for some reason.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Just be white and jacked with no shirt on. Then tinder will become your heaven.
 

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I "match" with a fair number of girls but these days I don't even bother saying hello.

Tinder has become, for me at least, just a way to pass the time when I'm waiting for something else to happen. eg, when I'm standing in line or sitting in a waiting room or something. It's basically a few minutes of eye-candy. After one initial "success" when the app first came out, it's essentially now a phone-based game for me that doesn't translate into real-world interactions.

The problem is that I'm not going to waste my time chatting with chicks whom I know absolutely nothing about beforehand. All I see is her pic. Sites like OK Cupid I can at least see if there will be any sort of shared interests or values, like a strong interest in sex ;)

I'm not going to spend days chatting with some chick who ends up being in a relationship, or a fundamentalist christian, or a prude, or who's looking for a golf partner, or who's six inches taller than me, or who is just bored at work (which is probably 97% of the women on there).

Tinder is a waste of time IMHO. From what I've seen here and on bodybuilding . com, the reports from 2013 stating that it was a great place for easy sex have turned out to be, shall we say, highly exaggerated.
 

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Tinder is full of some real fat ugly girls, at least that's my experience with it on the dates I've had. There was some HB8 or so I was talking to from it after getting her number for Whatsapp. She left me all these bulls*hit 30 second voice messages like some sort of retard, as if typing something is that hard. Considering I was juggling 7 other girls at the time I just ignored her.

I've had far better success from dating websites such as okcupid in some cases not even going out for a drink, literally picking them up, driving down some country lane. Banging them in the backseat of the car (sometimes including anal :crazy: ) then driving them back home. I then stop at some convenience store to buy some water and clean the mess from the backseat. Then I go ghost and never speak to them again. You need some proper escalation before the date for that to work.
 
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