"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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This is rather interesting..

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okay, so today I went out to a movie with one of my bros. He was pretty much on a date with his gf, but she brought along a friend, and he wanted me to go so the friend didn't end up feeling like a third wheel. I really wasn't interested in her, but my bro always feels the need to try to hook me up with some of his friends. To get to the point, I number closed the girl. It wasn't really hard, and this girl definitely isn't my type, but practice is practice. This particular girl wanted to hook up with me, but I had to refuse. I don't know this chick for one thing, and secondly, she came off as an attention *****.
Today was really different though. I had a bunch of girls checking me out. This isn't usually the case. For example, at the movie theatre, when I was going to go buy a refill, the chick working the counter started to hit on me, and asked me my age and where I go to school. I chatted with her for a little and attempted to buy a refill, but she wouldn't let me, and she gave me one for free. That comes off as a little generous..... Finally, while at sam's club, I saw some girl glancing at me, so I walked up to her and started talking to her. I ended up number closing her too. I don't know what the difference was today, but I was doing something right.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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What's up Jokerisk? Haven't seen you on the boards for a while. So you got two numbers and a free soda today,huh? Not bad. I remember the last thread you made before you took your little "hiatus" where you said you were going to chill out from the forum for a while in order to practice what you've learned so far,and you also said that when you returned,you'd be coming back as a "DJ Master". Wow,I guess you weren't kidding around about that.
Well,I must admit it's refreshing to see a thread of yours that's positive and about you making progress instead of all that whining you did it the past.
This girl,the one who you said you wanted to use just for practice,what about her gave you the impression that she is or might be an AW? Just curious.
 

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Thanks man. Yeah, I've been working on self improvement, and I've gained a lot of confidence. I started hitting the gym, and got really involved in the band I'm in. I stopped hanging out with the people that were holding me back, and things couldn't be going better.
That girl was just all over me, and I had only known her for an hour... I mean, she wanted to hook up, and I'm not into doing that **** with girls i don't know. She really seems crazy too. I mean, yeah, she's attractive, but I need my space, and I can't stand girls who don't give me breathing room. She's already texting me, and calling me, telling me how she wants to hang out with me again. My bro that introduced us told me that she's a party girl, and gets into weed and stuff. I'm really not interested in girls like that. They're just a bad influence on me.
 

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Jokerlsk said:
I stopped hanging out with the people that were holding me back, and things couldn't be going better.
Now this:I LIKE.
Jokerisk said:
That girl was just all over me, and I had only known her for an hour... I mean, she wanted to hook up, and I'm not into doing that **** with girls i don't know. She really seems crazy too.
Yeah,I see what you mean. Personally,if a girl I had known for only an hour was all over me and talking about "hooking up",especially when if I hadn't really talked to her and used any "game" on her,I'd take off running down the street. I mean yeah,it might seem good to have a woman be a little agreesive towards you,but just some random girl out of the blue who I've known less than an hour? Nope. Can't do it. Heck,even Mystery says it takes on average 7 hours to seduce a woman.
Jokerisk said:
She's already texting me, and calling me, telling me how she wants to hang out with me again.
Wow,dude. Do you realize how many guys here on this forum would love to have this problem you have with this girl?
Jokerisk said:
My bro that introduced us told me that she's a party girl, and gets into weed and stuff. I'm really not interested in girls like that. They're just a bad influence on me.
This is gold man. This is the kind of wisdom that most people get when they're 45,50 years old after being burned over and over again not by life,but by bad,stupid decisions they've made in the lives. Keep up the good work and keep improving man. :up:
 

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Igetit!, Mystery calls that "Fools Mate".

And I have similar opinions of party girls, but I'm going to keep in mind that they will know of the quieter, more sophisticated girls I prefer, just because of the sheer size of their social network.

How do you two know each other anyway? (Igetit! & Jokerisk)
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Yeah, Igetit, I just prefer my personal space lol. I don't like people knowing my business. The reasoning behind the "party girl" thing is that I have high aspirations for myself, and I'm not going to sacrifice them, or let someone else distort my personal beliefs. Not even if it is a hot girl. There are plenty of attractive girls that don't do that stuff, so why should I settle for less.
Igetit helped me out a lot when I was first starting off as a major AFC. that's how he knows me, and why he's looked at my progress.
 

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I am going to go out on a limband say it really isnt that unusual fro girls to check you out, you just noticed it more. It is the whole mindset thing. When you feel good about yourself, you're more prone to notice things that support that idead and less likely to notice things that go against that idea. Also, even when your not interested in a girl, it still gives you a confidence boost when she is into you. Obviously, that confidence and general "feel-good" attitude carried on to your interactions with the other women. Way to go. Your inner game stuff is definitely starting to pay off
 

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Yeah, i'm pretty sure you're right. I'm not an ugly guy, but I'm definitely not the most attractive guy. I do look really unique though. It's probably because I'm an asian and white mix. I've had a lot more confidence though, and it's really paying off. You're right, my inner game is starting to pay off.
 
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