"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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this is how stupid some women are

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I'm going to tell you a little story about how stupid women are. the story begins with me joining match.com for a month awhile back. i only did it for one month just to see what it was like, and quite frankly it was a wasted $30 to say the least. if i wanted to meet people of the opposite sex with that many issues, i could just go down to the local assylum and have my pick. this isn't about how much match.com, or online dating sucks in general, it's about how stupid some girls are. well, i email this girl on there, get her number, call her, set up a time and place to go out in a couple days and figure all is well. wrong! i get some random @$$ text the next day from her saying "i'll be busy the next 2 weeks, can't go out saturday." well the old me would think "aw shucks what a pitty, i'll just wait for her during those 2 weeks" but the new me thought "this b*tch is lying and doesn't even have the class to tell me she's met someone else". when you smell a rat you smell a rat. so i text her back and call her on her b.s. excuse, and yep sure enough, within 24 hours shed met someone else she thought was "better" then me so she decided to give me the ill be out of town for 2 weeks excuse.lol fast forward about a month to today. it's my birthday today. i have texts coming from numbers that aren't still in my phone, but apparently i'm still in theirs.lol i get one from a number i REALLY don't recognize. guess who? yep, turns out to be miss 2 weeks.haha i text her back after her intitial text asking who's this? God you'd think i just called her mom a big fat wh0re! she got offended that i didn't have her saved in my phone and didn't recognize who she was. i got accused of being a player, having "wh0res" lined up, i'm just a woman user, glad she didn't waste her time on me because i'm an @$$hole, yada yada yada. this girl is going off on ME, on my BIRTHDAY, when SHE was the one who broke off our date for someone else! then a month later she expects me to recognize her number when she texts me?! this is why i have a hard time trusting anything women say, or respecting them....they do stupid sh!t like this. i swear they didn't use to be this f'n dumb but as i get older i swear to God above they manage to prove me wrong time and time again.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Robert,

Mate, she wanted to be exclusive and whvre around. Good job on not waiting around like a sucker for 2 weeks. Its a numbers game, she went out with some other guy, whvred around and expected you to be a patient puppy whilst she comes back from a good old time.

I wouldn't of even texted her back to "Call "Her Out". The meer silence alone shows my care mechanism towards her and her whole supposed "busy 2 weeks".
 

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i text her back after her initial text asking who's this? God you'd think i just called her mom a big fat wh0re! she got offended that i didn't have her saved in my phone and didn't recognize who she was.


She's mad at men and holding that against you. Notice how well that worked for her.

Now of course the difficult part is not making the same mistake as her when you meet your next girl.
 

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Simply amazing and par for the course! Man, match.com sucks!!!! It truly is a numbers game and I would love to see the ratio of men to women on that and other dating sites.

I have been on a few dates from match and they were both pretty bad. Not to mention you have to send a ton of emails out. In my case I sent maybe 50 and got 4-6 responses and fairly crappy ones at that. I am a decent looking guy too. Total waste of time and have one month left. I will use it until it runs because like a stupid fool I paid.

Out of town for two weeks....... uh..... yeah.... What a load of crap!! You are the bad guy because you did not allow her to random sample while keeping you on ice. Sometimes, man, you gotta take the trash out.. Just like in this case. The girl sounds like trash.
 

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Thats hilarious you p1ssed her off that much with very little effort on your part.

Sounds like a dumb immature b1tch
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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F**k match.com! Women are becoming more attention wh0res on the internet and in real life.

I'm glad you didn't wait around. But what you need to do, Robert, is make yourself a better catch to women. Women have lots of options, always. Men don't always have this luxury.
 

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that's the thing, this girl is 28 years old! she speaks of herself as a down to earth, well rounded, wants someone who holds the door open for her, wants someone whos spontaneous, blah blah blah. basically a fraud of what she really is. she'll get screwed over or she must already have and thought she could come back a month later and id still be wanting to go on that date with her. not gonna happen sweetheart! she, and girls like her can kiss my :moon:
 

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Robert28 said:
I'm going to tell you a little story about how stupid women are. the story begins with me joining match.com for a month awhile back. i only did it for one month just to see what it was like, and quite frankly it was a wasted $30 to say the least. if i wanted to meet people of the opposite sex with that many issues, i could just go down to the local assylum and have my pick. this isn't about how much match.com, or online dating sucks in general, it's about how stupid some girls are. well, i email this girl on there, get her number, call her, set up a time and place to go out in a couple days and figure all is well. wrong! i get some random @$$ text the next day from her saying "i'll be busy the next 2 weeks, can't go out saturday." well the old me would think "aw shucks what a pitty, i'll just wait for her during those 2 weeks" but the new me thought "this b*tch is lying and doesn't even have the class to tell me she's met someone else". when you smell a rat you smell a rat. so i text her back and call her on her b.s. excuse, and yep sure enough, within 24 hours shed met someone else she thought was "better" then me so she decided to give me the ill be out of town for 2 weeks excuse.lol fast forward about a month to today. it's my birthday today. i have texts coming from numbers that aren't still in my phone, but apparently i'm still in theirs.lol i get one from a number i REALLY don't recognize. guess who? yep, turns out to be miss 2 weeks.haha i text her back after her intitial text asking who's this? God you'd think i just called her mom a big fat wh0re! she got offended that i didn't have her saved in my phone and didn't recognize who she was. i got accused of being a player, having "wh0res" lined up, i'm just a woman user, glad she didn't waste her time on me because i'm an @$$hole, yada yada yada. this girl is going off on ME, on my BIRTHDAY, when SHE was the one who broke off our date for someone else! then a month later she expects me to recognize her number when she texts me?! this is why i have a hard time trusting anything women say, or respecting them....they do stupid sh!t like this. i swear they didn't use to be this f'n dumb but as i get older i swear to God above they manage to prove me wrong time and time again.
Guys are straight up and will turn down an offer directly. Girls on the other hand, will create excuses rather than be direct.

You know this, and I know this already.

Obviously you care too much about being rejected, your ego is way too big. A big ego is a man's biggest weakness.
 

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Robert28 said:
... "this b*tch is lying and doesn't even have the class to tell me she's met someone else". when you smell a rat you smell a rat. so i text her back and call her on her b.s. excuse, and yep sure enough, within 24 hours shed met someone else she thought was "better" then me so she decided to give me the ill be out of town for 2 weeks excuse..
You do realize that you were probably the only guy not to buy her "2 week " excuse.
You exposed her lie and then chastised her for trying to deceive you.
Women rarely receive this reaction from men . Deception, and mindgames are mostly successful strategies for them .That's why they continue to practise them.

When she sent out her birthday greeting, she hoped to reel another sucker , not realizing that it was Robert, the guy who exposed her deviousness..
Her fury was kind of predictable.. She must have been dying a thousand deaths from embarrassment when she realized that she had text YOU !

Nice work, soldier.
 

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lol funny story. I never take this stuff too seriously, it just is what it is. One girl I met off a site a few months ago was also ****ing some doctor and telling him how she wanted to be with him yet would deny him ***** because she ****ed me earlier in the day. LOL I even told her I was making her **** me before she met him cuz I think it's funny and she still did it.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Robert28 said:
I'm going to tell you a little story about how stupid women are. the story begins with me joining match.com for a month awhile back. i only did it for one month just to see what it was like, and quite frankly it was a wasted $30 to say the least. if i wanted to meet people of the opposite sex with that many issues, i could just go down to the local assylum and have my pick. this isn't about how much match.com, or online dating sucks in general, it's about how stupid some girls are. well, i email this girl on there, get her number, call her, set up a time and place to go out in a couple days and figure all is well. wrong! i get some random @$$ text the next day from her saying "i'll be busy the next 2 weeks, can't go out saturday." well the old me would think "aw shucks what a pitty, i'll just wait for her during those 2 weeks" but the new me thought "this b*tch is lying and doesn't even have the class to tell me she's met someone else". when you smell a rat you smell a rat. so i text her back and call her on her b.s. excuse, and yep sure enough, within 24 hours shed met someone else she thought was "better" then me so she decided to give me the ill be out of town for 2 weeks excuse.lol fast forward about a month to today. it's my birthday today. i have texts coming from numbers that aren't still in my phone, but apparently i'm still in theirs.lol i get one from a number i REALLY don't recognize. guess who? yep, turns out to be miss 2 weeks.haha i text her back after her intitial text asking who's this? God you'd think i just called her mom a big fat wh0re! she got offended that i didn't have her saved in my phone and didn't recognize who she was. i got accused of being a player, having "wh0res" lined up, i'm just a woman user, glad she didn't waste her time on me because i'm an @$$hole, yada yada yada. this girl is going off on ME, on my BIRTHDAY, when SHE was the one who broke off our date for someone else! then a month later she expects me to recognize her number when she texts me?! this is why i have a hard time trusting anything women say, or respecting them....they do stupid sh!t like this. i swear they didn't use to be this f'n dumb but as i get older i swear to God above they manage to prove me wrong time and time again.
U mad?
 

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FLAWLESS VICTORY!

Textbook stuff; your experience of online dating, the way the situation played out and most commendably, the way you handled it.

I was reading the thread waiting for someone to bring you down, tell you that you got too wound up...and right on cue, "U mad?". What, exactly, is the purpose of that post?

Mate, I get the impression your actual actions were cool, calm and deliberate, and they worked, that's the bottom line. Vent away, blow off some steam, where else are we going to do it?

There's a confessional quality when we post sometimes, we're not looking for advice or to be told we could have done things differently, it's just cathartic, and there's not a goddamn thing wrong with that.
 

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Wilko said:
Mate, I get the impression your actual actions were cool, calm and deliberate, and they worked, that's the bottom line. Vent away, blow off some steam, where else are we going to do it?
You can go ahead and be his punching bag



Wilko said:
There's a confessional quality when we post sometimes, we're not looking for advice or to be told we could have done things differently, it's just cathartic, and there's not a goddamn thing wrong with that.
Just admit that he is complaining and moaning with no purpose except to vent. While there is nothing *wrong* with that - it is something I expect girls to do.
 

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Trader, aren't you supposed to go find a girl to lose your virginity to first before being allowed to join these discussions?

Let the man share his story.

Good work Robert28. Pissing off those dumb chicks with minimal effort deserves a hi5. :)
 

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You can go ahead and be his punching bag





Just admit that he is complaining and moaning with no purpose except to vent. While there is nothing *wrong* with that - it is something I expect girls to do.
GENDER ROLES1111!1!11

MINE ARE STRICT!!!!!!!!
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Well, let's just say I reserve the right to vent, but I won't be offended if Trader or someone else punches me where my nuts used to be.
 

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Ice882 said:
GENDER ROLES1111!1!11

MINE ARE STRICT!!!!!!!!
If only you knew what gender roles were, then you would realize what a girl you are
 

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If only you knew what gender roles were, then you would realize what a girl you are
Lol, what???
 

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Don't get mad, get even..fvck another girl.
 

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Robert28 said:
I'm going to tell you a little story about how stupid women are. the story begins with me joining match.com for a month awhile back. i only did it for one month just to see what it was like, and quite frankly it was a wasted $30 to say the least. if i wanted to meet people of the opposite sex with that many issues, i could just go down to the local assylum and have my pick. this isn't about how much match.com, or online dating sucks in general, it's about how stupid some girls are. well, i email this girl on there, get her number, call her, set up a time and place to go out in a couple days and figure all is well. wrong! i get some random @$$ text the next day from her saying "i'll be busy the next 2 weeks, can't go out saturday." well the old me would think "aw shucks what a pitty, i'll just wait for her during those 2 weeks" but the new me thought "this b*tch is lying and doesn't even have the class to tell me she's met someone else". when you smell a rat you smell a rat. so i text her back and call her on her b.s. excuse, and yep sure enough, within 24 hours shed met someone else she thought was "better" then me so she decided to give me the ill be out of town for 2 weeks excuse.lol fast forward about a month to today. it's my birthday today. i have texts coming from numbers that aren't still in my phone, but apparently i'm still in theirs.lol i get one from a number i REALLY don't recognize. guess who? yep, turns out to be miss 2 weeks.haha i text her back after her intitial text asking who's this? God you'd think i just called her mom a big fat wh0re! she got offended that i didn't have her saved in my phone and didn't recognize who she was. i got accused of being a player, having "wh0res" lined up, i'm just a woman user, glad she didn't waste her time on me because i'm an @$$hole, yada yada yada. this girl is going off on ME, on my BIRTHDAY, when SHE was the one who broke off our date for someone else! then a month later she expects me to recognize her number when she texts me?! this is why i have a hard time trusting anything women say, or respecting them....they do stupid sh!t like this. i swear they didn't use to be this f'n dumb but as i get older i swear to God above they manage to prove me wrong time and time again.
A woman on an online dating site constantly looking for the next best thing....Anyone surprised?

Good job bro. I would've done the same thing. She thought she had "upgraded" with the last guy and most likely got pumped and dumped by him while he upgraded from her, then she tried to weasel her way back to you... her perceived "cushion".. but fell flat on the concrete instead. I'd be willing to bet she's already looking for her next "sucker" to tell her sob story of how "guys are such jerks" and she's really looking for a nice guy to the sap who will buy it.

Of course it's not her fault though. Women don't believe in "accountability" for their actions. It's never their fault. Only the guys.

You can only pity a silly little twit like the one you've described.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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